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Originally posted by zakiahmed:
So  Huzur :saw: wasn't aware of what you just said?
When Huzur:saw: said " did you know what was in his heart when you heard the Kalima" .... that means, no one except Allah has power to see what is in the hearts of people. And that is why no one except Allah has the power to declare someone 'Muslim' or 'Kaafir'.
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did i ever say that?
we dont say what in their hearts but WE DO say what we see. so if u see a kafir praying to a statue, do you say may be he is muslim in his heart? heck no, you say he is kafir.
when some one says kalima then we say yes he is muslim but if he goes and starts worshipping the dead he no longer is following the kalima he just recited which states that there is no ilah but allah, and he becomes kafir.
do you know about the sect named mujiah? read up on them for more information.