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Originally Posted by Magic Stick
^^ I don't give a F about what is technically prohibited or written in some book. All I know is that racism/castism exists in the Islamic world, just like it exists in the Hindu world or the Christian world. Work to fix it rather than pointing out problems with other theories (religions).
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Even I will agree that castism and racism may exist everywhere in the world, but it is more prevalent in India. Racism and castism are two different concepts. You (more than one individual) can be of the same race (black), and of two different castes (1. Sudra, 2. Vaishyas).
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Originally Posted by Magic Stick
We can debate forever on whats technically correct about a religion and throw different interpretations at each other. What matters most is how things are practiced. Shias hate Sunnis, Sunnis hate Shias, Sunnis hate Ahmadis, this is nothing but another form of caste system, just like Catholics and Protestands, just like Brahmins and Dalits. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by magnifying problems in other faiths (the way they are practiced) and work towards making your own community better. We should actually ignore this faith nonsense and work towards making every community better but you are obviously religiously overcharged so go ahead an start in your own turf.
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Shia, Sunni, Ahmadi are sects, not castes. It seems as if you don't even know the definition of a caste and a sect. Sunni & Shias may have
sectarian differences which is in no way the same as (or another form of) castism.
Caste - social status or position conferred by a system based on class.
Sect - A group sharing a common belief that has broken off from a larger group.
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Originally Posted by VetriVelan
^ perhaps because the atrocities committed by muslims of other muslim sects as well as non-muslims are worse than whatever injustices were heaped upon lower caste Hindus. So when a muslim starts pointing fingers at Hinduism, it merits special derision
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So, basically what you are saying is that non-Hindoos committing atrocities is a good enough reason for Hindoos to commit atrocities & conceal them?
Its funny how almost every Indian on this topic brings in irrelevant issues instead of admitting whats hard to swallow.
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Originally Posted by VetriVelan
Do you know why? because this thread was started in 2008 based on some articles published in 2002. Dalits and their problems still do exist with some difference but what do you think the intention of the dumbo who started this thread was, given he is starting it 6 years after the articles? On top of that he comments "let the usual excuses start" .....with such dishonesty being the basis of the thread, what else do you expect? On top of that this mischief is started by a muslim to knock Hindus and so what you get back is being shown errors of Islam.
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And whats really funny is that the usual excuses never stopped. Muslims & Islam have nothing to do with this topic, but what is notable is that whichever Hindoo who cannot admit the fact about Daalit discriminations resorts to off-topic issues such as Islam and Muslims. Basically trying to stray from the original discussion to save their faces.
Here is an article (from a recognized authentic source) published in 2007:
UN publishes IHEU submissions on Dalit rights and child marriage
"The Dalits number well over 250 million worldwide and are known as 'the broken people' because they suffer extreme discrimination on the basis of descent and occupation. They constitute 4% of humanity, and are concentrated in Africa and South Asia. In Nigeria there are four million Osu and in Japan there are three million Buraku.
However, it is in South Asia that over three quarters of the world's Dalits live: the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has some 2 million Dalits, Nepal's 4 million Dalits make up nearly one-fifth of the country's population and India's 165 million Dalits form about 16% of her population."
http://www.iheu.org/node/2622
A simple question now: Is castism most prevalent in India?