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Old Dec 14th, 2008, 02:27 AM   #16 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by ravage View Post
I listened carefully sir. And whereas he occasionally is self deprecating a lot of the time its pretty haughty condemnation. at one point the guy says 'even i am sometimes prone to this... i am serious' as if it is such an unbelievable thing that even he would be a common sinner like the rest of us.

the whole lecture has an undercurrent of putting people down.



even in the time of abbasids and ottomans, when the most propsperous part of the world wasnt the west but the muslim world, the 'consumerism' came from the west? come on. there is an extent to which you can blame the west for your ills. excessive indulgence in the material is as old as firaun, and older than that. it is a fundamental human impulse.

the guy has his worldview and tries to fashion the world to it.
Peace bhai ravage

Please hear what he says not how he says it. The Knower of hearts is Allah (SWT) alone.

Okay if you excuse him for his associating materialism to the West ... just for once think regardless of where materialism has started it is wrong isn't it?







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