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Originally Posted by burqaposhx
Hanibal bro, do you read at least once before you post?
Are you in some Grade -1 kids' discussion that you forget in few moments what you posted earlier? And then pick up kiddy book of Islamic history and start discussing some of the selective stuff?
It was you bro who said
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The purpose of the [Pakistani] state was to show/prove to the rest of the world that Islam is true divine religion .
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This is utterly false and pakka Maulana talk from a dark medieval hojra.
Remember Islam's divinity and truthfulness CAME FIRST and was fully ACCEPTED,
BEFORE
Any Islamic state was formed be it in Madina or elsewhere.
It is sad that many of the examples from the early Islamic history are parroted over and over without an iota of their context or siaqo sabaak.
FYI. Early Islamic history was focused on civilizing buddoos and desert nomads who didn't have any idea of how to behave in an urban setting.
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what a guy you are, accusing me for the stuff you have done.. you are the one who said
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Remember that when Islam was accepted as a divine religion, there was no Muslim state for 1000 miles in any direction of Makkah.
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but i guess with the twisted mentality you have, you sometimes forget that what you have posted, above was answer for the statement of yours which clearly says that it is coming for the somebody who want to kill or at least try to limit Islam..
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Originally Posted by burqaposhx
Fast forward 1400+ years and many parts of Pakistan are no long buddoos, instead they live in cities that are much much advanced compared to the tent-dwelling lifestyles.
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Have you even bothered to read what i wrote!!! or it is just your to make comments without reading them... I said, and it is the same posts which you red, i'll make it more simple for you, The State of Islam was established in the same principal under which the state of Madina ( the first state of Islam) was established, a Muslim State, for the believers where they can practice their religion without any fear, where the complete code of Islam will be the answer for problem man-kind have created due to the things which has been prohibted by Islam... usury, adultery etc comes to mind...
Now tell me, is it not possible to live without interest or Aduletry, is this the reason people like you oppose the very idea of Pakistan... the so-called intellects who have accepted the dominance of the false idealogy, culture and religion will definetly bring these and other prohibted issues in the line of personal affairs..
One more thing, are you telling me the 1400+ year old religion is no longer valid and it should be limited to certain aspects if not nullified, i believe you and the people of you mind-set do believe the same idealogy... and yes in result we get talibans... you are no better than them...
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Originally Posted by burqaposhx
People who shout Islamism at the top of their lungs fail to understand that Islam's basic tenants are not head chopping or kora-bazi or even invading other countries, instead the the earliest Islam (as practiced by Mohammad pbuh and his companions rah) was based on some very simple rules.
1. Speak truth - such bolo
2. Be honest and trustworthy - amanat main khianat na karo
3. Be tolerant and humble - doosron say acha salook karo, or unki ghalti muaf karo
4. USE YOUR HEAD - apni aqal istimaal karo.
Sadly the Islamists do away with these 4 BASIC BASIC BASIC BASIC tenets, and instead try to erect the false and Ibleesi rules for the exploitation and murdering of innocent Pakistanis.
And if anyone of you is in doubt about the hijacking of Islam by Maudoodi and other Maulanas, just read what happened in the riots of 1950s all the way to the what Talibleesis have been doing to Pakistanis masses after raping and plundering Afghani masses
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Islamists or should i say, so-called islamists which are the one who have no understanding of religion or who drive the relgious interpretation as per their interests do what were you are saying.. and i do not call them Islamists as i do not want to have them in line of the true Islamists, who lead their life as per Sunnah of the prophet, again these are not the one who pose themselves as Islamists as Islam is very much against the Show-off kind of stuff...
Another Problem is their which is often exploited by the enemies of our religion is drived from following the tradition and considering their called leaders either the best being or the worst being..
none of them represent the essence of Islam, which gives every one their right of speech, ofcourse with the limitation of Quran and Hadees, nor does any one tolerate each other and the result is in front of us...
again i think you represent the extermist of other side, you are a taliban of otherside who equally respobsible for the chaos in Pakistan.. and is using other extremist to propogate their own mind-set...
Now do answer the question... i have raised above and answer will end the discussion.