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Originally Posted by Mirch
Instead of asking me how I reached to the conclusions , if you have any strong arguments against my understanding and you can prove with the help of Quran ,hadees or any tafseer or with the help of your own ijtehad , you are more then welcome to do so.
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learn some science of common sense, the burden of proof is not upon my shoulder until you prove your claims. Have you proven them? Once you do, then we can talk about tafseer and all that. What's the point of bringing tafseer when you are going to reject it and you can perform ijtihad yourself?
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Originally Posted by Mirch
You do not have to be bitter and you do not have to start name calling and there is no need for any pointless comments and judgments you are passing.
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I simply repeated what you stated in another thread. Show me where I resort to personal insults, specifically name calling? Please stop lying against me!
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Thank you in advance for your co-operation in keeping this a non personal academic discussion.
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lol, bro acadmeic discussion takes place among the people of knowledge. Maybe you consider yourself knowledgable but I do not. Hence, there will no acadmic discussion.
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If you do not have any understanding of Quranic Arabic I would advise you to stay out of this discussion.
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neither do you or rest of the memebers, nor you placed any conditions in the first post. I will stay away from it from now on.
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Originally Posted by Mirch
As for understanding and knowledge of Quran and Hadees and Sunnat. I have spent more than 8 years to understand and learn this religion . I am still learning and this discussion is part of that learning process.
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masha'Allah it is good that you have spent 8 years. It is also shocking that you spent 8 years studying Islam yet you never understood what the mufsreen have stated in the tafsir of these ayaat and here you are aksing the laypeople for some sort of help. I'm sorry if i doubt your intentions but I think you lack ikhlaas.
I would yet again advice to everyone to not to speak without knowledge! Let us refrain from stating our own opinions and refer to those who have knowledge!