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Old Nov 2nd, 2009, 04:56 AM   #47 (permalink)
Ma Mooli
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Never seen no solid Daleel (proof) from the Quran or the Sunnah in which Allah The Exalted, the Prophet , the Sahaabah (radhi Allaahu anhum) or the Ahl Al-Bait (radhi Allaahu anhum) ever said "thou shalt not approach Allaah directly for thou art too sinful and fall short of His glory so take an intercessor unto him"...
If thats the sort of daleel you are looking for then you are never going to find it, becuase there is nothing ultimately wrong with asking Allah directly, and one is free to do so to his utmost....however there is nothing forbidden about using waseela, and infact is deemed more beneficial using it rather than not.

Dont forget, even asking directly, you can use tawassul, in the form of 'for the sake of your AhlulBayt...', as there is no contradiction between the two. It is an assumption on you're part, that tawssul believing people cannot ask directly, they can too and easily so, but that doesnt stop them from using tawassul, whether they pray directly or indirectly via His chosen ones, that is thier choice. And in my opinion tawassul is by far, the better choice.


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I've seen how one things leads to the next with Waseelah, it's subtle at first but becomes blatant polytheism.
That is not really a logical excuse to abstain from what is allowed, that my friend can lead to blatant paranoia, and if that was a real worry, the kabah would not be designated as God's House, for fear of idol worshipping.

You can see what happens when that mentality sets in, where many places of significance have been demolished in saudi, and if it were upto them, they probably wouldnt allow the kaba to stand for fear of shirk. It starts to get dangerous when you try being a thought police and attempt to assume or control how other people think. That is actually the first step of disintegration..







O He whose Name is a Remedy, whose remembrance is a Cure, and whose obedience is Wealth!

Have mercy upon him whose capital is hope and whose weapon is tears!

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