Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah.
I thought i'd open a new thread to address a few more of the evidences presented by T.O. Shanavas in his attempt to discredit the hadith that reports Aisha's (r) young age at the time of her marriage to Prophet Muhammad (s). The original thread posted by PA, titled
Hadith Inconsisties [sic] Exposed: Ayesha a Six-Year-Old-Bride?, can be found
here. I'll repost my initial reply to evidence #1 and will then briefly look at evidence #2 & #3 as i think these suffice to show the author's bias and habit of selectively quoting only that which fits his agenda. I may look at the other evidences at some later point if time permits.
Here is the initial reply to evidence #1.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
Hadith Inconsisties Exposed: Ayesha a Six-Year-Old-Bride?
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Interesting title. What's an "Inconsisties"? In any case, i think the only thing "exposed" here is the pitiful lack of research on the part of T.O. Shanavas (he or she?) and the gullibility of those who swallow hook, line and sinker whatever he's written in this particular article.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
My friend smiled and left me with a thorn in the heart of my faith.
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So Shanavas had a "thorn in the heart" of his faith. We'll see below how he went about removing that thorn, by passing over evidence that contradicted his agenda whilst promoting one or two quotes that helped him discredit the hadith that report Aisha's (r) young age.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
“Will you marry your seven year old daughter to a fifty year old man?”
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It seems the problem Shanavas and his Christian questioner have is not Aisha's (r) individual age at the time of her marriage to the Prophet (s) but rather the age gap between the two of them. Otherwise what is the point of mentioning the Prophet's (s) age? Would Shanavas and his friend prefer it if the Prophet (s) had been younger? Some Christians, having failed to defame the exemplary character of the Prophet (s) based only on Aisha's (r) age at the time of her marriage introduced a new factor into the equation, namely that the marriage is offensive because of the age difference between the two marriage partners.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
EVIDENCE #1:
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Let's first look at evidence #1, it seems as good a place as any to start.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
Most of the narratives printed in the books of hadith are reported only by Hisham ibn `Urwah, who was reporting on the authority of his father.
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This isn't a very good start for Shanavas and those who've submitted to his arguments. "
Most of the narratives", we are told, "are reported
only by Hisham ibn `Urwah." Okay, let's accept for argument's sake that most of them have been reported only by Hisham ibn `Urwah. Yet it is clear from Shanavas' own words that there are in fact other reports that aren't related through Hisham at all. So why doesn't Shanavas mention any of them? Shanavas all too quickly passes over evidence that refutes his thesis, and his supporters are more than willing to let him do so. They are equally to blame; guilty by association i'd say.
The fact that other narrators agree with Hisham in reporting the young age of Aisha (r) at the time of her marriage suffices to show grave defects in Shanavas' evidence #1 argument. His attempt therefore - as we shall see below - to discredit Hisham ibn `Urwah is both unnecessary and disingenuous. This is despite the fact that to suit his purpose Shanavas has grossly exaggerated Hisham's weakness as we shall see. Shanavas wants us to believe that Hisham was mistaken in his reporting of Aisha's (r) age. So what? Is he also going to condemn all the other narrators that agree with Hisham?
Hisham ibn `Urwah isn't alone in reporting Aisha's (r) young age at the time of her marriage to Prophet Muhammad (s). Here are some other narrators who report the same age that Hisham does:
Ibn Majah (d.273H) in his Sunan hadith collection, in the book of marriage, records it with his chain of transmission through Abu Ubaydah, on the authority of
Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
An-Nasa'i (d.303H) in his Sunan, the book of marriage, cites it with his chain of transmission through Muhammad ibn Abi Salmah, on the authority of
Abdul Rahman, on the authority of Aisha (r).
An-Nasa'i also relates it through al-'Amash, on the authority of Ibrahim, on the authority of
al-Aswad, from Aisha. (Cf. ibn al-Qayyim's [d.751H], Tahdhib as-Sunan #2122). Likewise, Hafidh al-Haythami (d.807H), in his Majma az-Zawa'id (#15297), cites it from al-Aswad from Aisha (r) as does Imam Ahmed (d.241H) in his Musnad collection, in the section on Aisha's (r) hadith.
At-Tabarani (d.360H) in his Mu'jam al-Kabir, in the chapter on the wives of the Prophet (s), has a number of chains of transmission for this report. Here are three of them:
- from Sa'd ibn Ibrahim, on the authority of
al-Qasim ibn Muhammad, from Aisha (r)
- from Sai'd ibn Abu 'Aruba, on the authority of
Qatadah, re. Aisha
- from Abu Asamah, on the authority of al-'Ajlih, on the authority of
ibn Abi Malayka, re. Aisha
None of the above routes of transmission go through Hisham ibn `Urwah yet they agree with him in narrating the young age of Aisha (r).
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
First of all, more people than just one, two or three should logically have reported.
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It is in fact reported by more than just one, two or three people.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
It is strange that no one from Medina, where Hisham ibn `Urwah lived the first 71 years of his life narrated the event, despite the fact that his Medinan pupils included the well-respected Malik ibn Anas.
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Al-Qasim ibn Muhammad reports the age from Aisha (r) as per at-Tabarani's chain above and he was one of the seven famous Imams of Madina.
The last chain cited from at-Tabarani's work is through ibn Abi Malayka who is another Madinan scholar and an eminently reliable hadith narrator. He met at least thirty of the Prophet's (s) Companions. (ibn Hajar, at-Taqrib #3454)
Yahya al-Lakhmi also reports it from Aisha (r), as per ibn Sa'd's (d.230H) Tabaqat al-Kubra, and he is another Madinan authority.
In Sahih Muslim (#1422) we have az-Zuhri citing this report from Hisham ibn 'Urwa. Az-Zuhri was a Madinan hadith master and it is safe to assume that he heard this report from Hisham in Madina prior to him moving to Iraq.
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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
The origins of the report of the narratives of this event are people from Iraq, where Hisham is reported to have shifted after living in Medina for most of his life.
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No! Madinan authorities have also cited this hadith as have other non-Iraqi narrators through chains that don't mention Hisham at all.
Continued... Iqbal