zaini747

Israel, fully responsible all the bloodsucking of the Muslims around, they siege the economy of the world and dont accept any Muslim state who have a sound economy as well as Politically independent. Now they are present as BLACK WATER in Islamabad and most of the cities of Pakistan. why terrorist attacks are increasing after banned a pro US Consulate Security Agency (I think namely Inter Security), I am asking this question to my friends??????????

Maverick_27

yes...... they are.

dhj786

It's not surprising you of all people would believe it without acknowledging the fanatical elements that exist in your own society that take pride in killing civilians.

happyheart

Its "not" surprising to me that you are "pro" everything that is anti-Pakistan and take pride in killing of civilians.

dhj786

I only take pride in killing terrorists and backward fake wannabe mullahs who want to turn the entire Islamic world into another Taliban-style khalifa.

Deeba1234

Those of you who are obsessed with blaming outside influences even if they were found to be funding these religious fanatics to destabilise Pakistan are they actually the ones making these idiots go around blowing themselves up??? Do they hold a gun to their head and make them do it??? It would be like saying because someone gives me 100k to go out and murder someone I shouldn't take the blame, they should cos they 'encouraged' me

dhj786

They'll even think Jews are out to destabilize Pakistan, given the rampant anti-Semitism in Pakistan

And what do they do? They start massacring a few Christians to make their point heard, amidst silence from a majority of Pakistanis. Just look at the lack of outrage towards Gojira.

Maverick_27

atleast u does not fall within in the definition of "civilian". u have to show some civilty here but till now u r busy in bashing islam............ lols

overgeneralisation of the facts and slanted version of the facts speak volume of ur ignorance of the current situation of pakistan and teaching islam.

bhai y dont u make post in showbiz sections atleast to add some value to this forum ............ lols

Maverick_27

bibi u cant deny the reality that US and NATO is on our border and 14 consulates of india working in afghanistan.

some outside forces are definitely involves in this big game

dhj786

Explain to me how Pakistan is suddenly the center of Islam according to your logic?

What ignorance? Are Christians, Shi'as, and Ahmadhis not persecuted? Are churches not burnt and Shi'a masjids bombed in Pakistan on a regular basis? Is there a reason why Pakistan has a FAR WORSE human rights record than Israel could ever dream of? Just look at the brutality of Parachinar that the Taliban fundos take extreme pride in. I hate Zionists with a passion but even they are nowhere near as brutal as the filthy Taliban and their Islamic fundamentalist supporters in the West that daydream about their regressive Islamic state.

If Pakistan didn't support the Taliban and make Afghanistan into its own Lebanon, and allow terrorists who took part in the 9/11 attacks, none of that would have been occurring.

Sounds like you are extremely desperate in defending your Muslim brothers in wrongdoing instead of mustering up the courage to condemn them.

Nosherwan

I wouldn't be surprised if the foreign agencies (Indian, Israeli etc.) want to destabilise Pakistan because they are fearful of our nuclear power and sovereignity but it doesn't change the fact that it's our people who do the dirty work, our people who let themselves be brainwashed enough to carry out these attacks.

Once they caught a Mullah in Pakistan who did Imamate for 10 yrs, turns out he was actually a Sikh and a RAW agent. I wont be suprised if these Mullah's who cause anarchy in our country are Indian agents or their brainwashed puppets.

What our Mullah's need to do is issue more Fatwas and say killing civlillians during warfare or for political agendas is Haraam and those who carry them out are going to Hell, hopefully renouncing these attacks from the religious clergy will put these people whoever they are of misusing the name of our religion, the Muslim clergies relative indifference to suicide bombings and their laziness in condeming them is giving our enemies a chance to malign Islam.

Maverick_27

sikh imam example clearly shows that we don’t consider religion important in our life. Nobody bothered to check that whether he was an alim from where he has obtained the degree of Alim (Dars e Nizamee). All we need a "sasta molvi" who can do imamat in few thousand rupees. Still western ppl think that we Pakistanis are practicing and die hard muslims.

Their ignorance in this regards sometimes makes me laugh.

As far as fatwa (basically an opinion in the light of shariah) is concerned muftis issues hundreds of fatwas relating to issues that ppl asked them for. But the western media is not interested in those. They only interested in fatwa relating to jihad.............

dhj786

They do speak out in Pakistan. However, ones that do are often ruthlessly silenced by 'theocratic imperialists'.

A scholar, a cleric, a voice for peace, brutally silenced

Maverick_27

@dhj786

but if u go back in the history. in Ronald Regan regime afghani militants were mujahideen and freedom fighters according to the definition of CIA.

we are living in a materialistic world.

yahan koi kisi ka nahi hay piyary

dhj786

But they weren't Taliban then. Most of the Afghan resistance opposed the Taliban, namely Ahmed Shah Masoud.

And yes, Reagan's decision to support Zia was a disaster.

Punjabee in USA

LOL...can you substantiate the Sikh mullah story ?

Nosherwan

^
It has been a while since I read it.

Hopefully if any of the other members know which story I'm talking about they can post a link, will appreciate that.

It's not surprising, lots of RAW agents get caught in Pakistan. Like that guy who got caught during Chacha Musharraf's regime and he handed him over to India, the guy should have been made to suffer.

I think Pakistanis are too lenient with Indian agents caught in our country, they send them back hattey kattey, having eaten more in Pakistan than they ever would have in India in their entire lives whereas ours come back malnutritioned and deranged.

Pakistanis have their problems with terrorism, no denying that, but Pakistan's enemies do take advantage of the situation and make things worse.

vineshvk

Tell me where are these 14 consulates. Where did you get your number from.
The fact is that there are only 4 Indian consulates in Afghanistan. They are in
Mazar-e-Sharif, Herat, Kandahar and Jalalabad.

Punjabee in USA

^ Thats how lies and exaggerations are used to mislead people and whip up hatred

shardmanny

pakistan is not about to be destabilised. its very resilient and once the americas go home, and they will go home, india is in for a shock.

pakistan will strategically hurt every country that meddled with its affairs, but india will get direct action. the acts of war being committed by india are not being forgotten by pakistans forces

as we saw after mumbai attacks pakistan IS WILLING TO NUKE INDIA at any opportunity. bearing this in mind dhj and his ilk can tell us about whats extreme and what is not