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Oct 24th, 2009, 03:40 PM
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Because Iraq is a Muslim country and such behavior is more commonplace with Muslim immigrants who are not interested in integrating to a country they chose to migrate to.
Chances are this Iraqi immigrant wasn't a Chaldean/Assyrian because Iraqi Christians don't engage in this behavior like the Muslim Iraqis often do.
Sorry if that may seem 'bigoted' to you, but I suppose the truth hurts.
Coming from someone that hates non-Muslims, you should be the last to talk.
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So it is your stereotype thinking which led you to conclude that because he is from iraq and Iraq is a Muslim country therefore Muslims are to be blamed. What brilliant thinking. regardless fo the fact that he himself blamed it on Iraqi culture you are not prepared to believe him. What does he know, you know better. Whatever the truth, haters who sterotype and try and blame whole communities and religions to satisfy their hatred are to be pittied.
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Oct 24th, 2009, 03:41 PM
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Is Iraq a Muslim country or a Christian country? Is 'traditional Iraqi values' not derived from Muslims to begin with?
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Oct 24th, 2009, 03:49 PM
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It is about time someone learns about Islam besides wasting time on googling selected news and spreading hateful ideas in every single thread or post.
Impress me..with your intelligence and wit. :-)
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Oct 24th, 2009, 04:56 PM
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Another one...........
Man loses it, bites teacher: News24: World: News
Copenhagen - A Palestinian father hit a Danish primary school teacher and bit his ear after he shook the hand of the man's daughter, police said on Thursday.
The 47-year-old Danish teacher of Moroccan origin had invited the father and daughter for a meeting at the school in the town of Vollsmose on Wednesday when he was "repeatedly hit and bitten in the ear", police said.
"The father, a Palestinian, apparently became furious that the teacher had greeted his daughter just before a meeting," Joergen Andersen, police superintendent in the nearby city of Odense, told AFP.
The 33-year-old father, a Muslim, said the teacher had "gone too far and offended his honour", Andersen said.
"The man is apparently not a fundamentalist," Andersen said. But he "could not accept this handshake between the teacher and his daughter".
The father told police he had "lost his cool" because of what he considered the teacher's "indecent" behaviour, Andersen said.
The teacher was treated at a hospital and put on sick leave.
The father was charged with assault on a public service employee. He was arrested and released on Thursday.
"It's the first time that a teacher is the victim of such violence in Denmark," Odense mayor Anker Boye told TV2 News television.
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Oct 24th, 2009, 04:57 PM
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Again one more gross generalisation, just for the sake of portraying it as "muslims-only" practice.
It is exactly like some convert nutter in tora bora mountains labelling THESE INCIDENTS as Hindu practice.
Quote from the article
"Most honour killings revolve around run-away marriages or relationships between two people from different castes. There were several instances of a groom or bride being killed by irate family members for marrying someone from a so-called lower caste.A prime example is that of Geeta Rani of Hoshiarpur of Punjab, whose husband, Jasveer, was killed by a group of people from his village last month. Rani and Jasveer both were from different castes, with Jasveer's killers belonging to Rani's caste."
Majority of muslims live in central & far-eastern Asia and we don't hear about any incidents associating them with these so-called honour killings? does that mean they are not following Islam? if not then why there are many extremists groups associated with al-qaeeda appear from there? because IF ISLAM is preaching extremism and encouraging Muslims to kill their women in the name of honour then they would be doing the same thing like other muslims originated from the sub-continent.
If we look closely then 80% of these crimes (by Muslim males) are committed by muslims with Pakistani, Indian & Bangladeshi roots, which indicates that it's more of a CULTURAL thing than religious practice.
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Oct 24th, 2009, 05:38 PM
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Crimes have no excuses.
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If we look closely then 80% of these crimes are commited by muslims with Pakistani, Indian & Bangladeshi roots, which indicates that it's more of a CULTURAL thing than religious practice.
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There is a big problem with this paragraph.
Crime of jealousy is worldwide. Nothing to do with muslims only. And I am not sure where this 80% came from if one looks in to universal nature of crimes of passion, jealousy across the world.
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Oct 24th, 2009, 06:28 PM
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If I am not wrong your original post says and I quote here "Faleh Hassan Almaleki was angry with his daughter "as she had become too 'Westernized' and was not living according to [the family's] traditional Iraq[i] values," Peoria police said in a statement released Wednesday."
he has cited traditional Iraqi values, nowhere has he talked about Islamic religious belief than why did you cite Muslims in your first post. You could have just said Iraqi. Can you please clarify your stand on this?
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Ehsan meri jaan
mera yehi to iltejaa hai
pukaar hai
thats why i have been ganging my head to the wall of moderators that this is not kosher what is happening here. But then they tell me that name calling is not allowed ok i accept name calling should not be allowed but: name calling against islam (systematic name calling) and name calling against Pakistan is allowed?
It happens everywhere in Western Media and Non islamic media that they tell lies about Pakistan and Islam and Muslims agar is forum mein bhee aise hai then mein kahaaaaaaaaaan jaun lolz really kahaan jaun i have no other place to go mate but to cry here.
Tere ishq ki inteha chahta hoon! Tere ishq ki intaha chaahata hoon. Meri saadgi
dekh kya chaahata hoon.
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Oct 24th, 2009, 06:29 PM
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Crimes have no excuses.
Originally Posted by Xenophanez
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If we look closely then 80% of these crimes are commited by muslims with Pakistani, Indian & Bangladeshi roots, which indicates that it's more of a CULTURAL thing than religious practice.
There is a big problem with this paragraph.
Crime of jealousy is worldwide. Nothing to do with muslims only. And I am not sure where this 80% came from if one looks in to universal nature of crimes of passion, jealousy across the world.
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Hellooo anyone listening? can't u see what is happening here? ??? dudesssssssss
its raining MUSLIMS EVERYWHERE!!!
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Oct 24th, 2009, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by diwana
Crimes have no excuses.
There is a big problem with this paragraph.
Crime of jealousy is worldwide. Nothing to do with muslims only. And I am not sure where this 80% came from if one looks in to universal nature of crimes of passion, jealousy across the world.
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Of course crime of passion IS common worldwide irrespective of criminal's colour and religion, but these crimes are not crimes of passion. In most cases of honour killings, the victim's family members (father or brothers) are involved. There are some incidents of cousins killing their cousins out of jealousy OR settle family/inheritance disputes and then giving it honour killing colour. Which again is all about wealth and has nothing to do with religion or Islam.
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Oct 24th, 2009, 07:30 PM
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Of course crime of passion IS common worldwide irrespective of criminal's colour and religion, but these crimes are not crimes of passion. In most cases of honour killings, the victim's family members (father or brothers) are involved. There are some incidents of cousins killing their cousins out of jealousy OR settle family/inheritance disputes and then giving it honour killing colour. Which again is all about wealth and has nothing to do with religion or Islam.
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OK.
1-Agreed that what people call these days 'honor killing' has nothing to do with Islam.
2- Also, crime of passion or out of honor does have a lot to do with what we hear about honor killing. This is what I mentioned to be worldwide. If this involves one person or family member as accomplice, the idea in nut-shell is same. In countries where families mind their own business, cousins and other family members would be difficult to be found to be accomplice merely to commit a crime of passion.
3-When you mentioned about 80% number, and mentioned muslims from three countries, that is where the problem lied. Thanks for clarifying though.
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Oct 25th, 2009, 05:07 AM
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This honor killing thing has its roots deep in Hinduism, where the girls were killed right after they were born. Or the widows are burnt alive along with husbands and so on. The highest number of abortions in the world for baby girls is in india. Why? Because mostly they fear the girls will bring a bad name to the family.
This horrible act of honor killing is being carried out in civilized societies like Germany, USA and almost every where and their number is no less than Muslims. Only they are called "family drama" in those cases..
Since he posted one piece of news to put it all on Muslims, here is just one piece of news (and there are hundred of thousands instances like that) to show how Hindus do it:
Indian kills pregnant daughter, family in US
Markham (Illinois): A suburban Chicago man is accused of setting an apartment fire -- killing his pregnant daughter, her husband and their young child -- because the son-in-law didn't ask permission for the marriage, prosecutors said.
Please join me in the campaign: NO TRANSIT ROUTE FOR INDIA!!
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Oct 25th, 2009, 05:53 AM
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Iraqis are weird people ?
2010-Paris,Normandy,Berlin(Bendlerblock)
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Oct 25th, 2009, 06:12 AM
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Iraqis are weird people ?
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Well on that i can agree with you lolz.
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Oct 25th, 2009, 07:00 AM
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The incident is condemnable regardless of the fact who did it.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
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Oct 25th, 2009, 07:14 AM
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Police: Man ran down 'too Westernized' daughter - CNN.com
When will this madness end with Muslims? I don't understand why Muslims even come to the West if they know how different this society is. I bet this guy also thinks Iraqi Christians are immoral too
Hope the POS father is caught and tried for his crimes.
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for you in bold because you are really pissin' me off with your key word muslim.
THIS MAN IS NOT A MUSLIM AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM
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Oct 25th, 2009, 07:31 AM
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<EDITED:- Refrain from personal attacks. Check forum posting guidelines.>
<Xenophanez>
I bet he haan mein haan mila's to everything negative said about Pak/Islam.
The media hates Muslims and that's why it only has us in the limelight, other socities have just as many bad apples as us. Hindus kill their daughers for marrying low/dirty castes and Sikhs too kill their daughters for eloping with Muslim boys.
There's positive criticism of ones people and there's being ashamed, this <edited> is ashamed.
"Allah will not forgive any the association of anything with Him; but He will forgive any lesser offense to whomsoever He chooses" [Intrepretation of the meaning of the Noble Quran 4:47, 115].
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Reason: personal attacks
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Oct 25th, 2009, 08:31 AM
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Many times similar news reports have appeared on GS and we have been discussing these things. However, this time it comes from dhj786. Now guys just find the threads started by this person and the posts of this guy, all are Pakistan hatred and muslim hatred. Thios kind of guy who has just one aim to come to this board, is what is termed as "troll" and please don't feed the troll.
ToooN Lang Ja, saadi kher ae
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Oct 25th, 2009, 09:33 AM
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Many times similar news reports have appeared on GS and we have been discussing these things. However, this time it comes from dhj786. Now guys just find the threads started by this person and the posts of this guy, all are Pakistan hatred and muslim hatred. Thios kind of guy who has just one aim to come to this board, is what is termed as "troll" and please don't feed the troll.
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More double standards.
You don't lash out at others on the board who bash on the West, Israel, and India. Are you just offended because you can't handle the criticism Pakistan gets? It's not my fault Muslims continue to bring cultural baggage to the West and can't integrate.
In your mind, it's okay to condemn non-Muslim women as whores, those who do not wear the hijab as sluts, all Israelis as 'murderers', and Indians as "cow-worshippers".
Take a look before condemning me.
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Oct 25th, 2009, 09:55 AM
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Ok what part of "NO TROLLING" you don't understand? Others also bash WEST but in your case all your posts are aimed to target Pakistan, Islam and Muslims in general. I had enough of this drama now. You were asked several times to refrain from troll like behaviour and contribute in positive manner, but it seems like it's not getting thru. Good bye.
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Oct 25th, 2009, 12:08 PM
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Iraqis are weird people ?
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What is weird about them which is different from others? Kindly explain.
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