A Zionist visitor - Page 2

Sara516 · Oct 30th, 2009, 09:50 PM

shalom aleichem.

hareem01 · Oct 31st, 2009, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shardmanny

^have you actually read the thread?

obviously she didn't.

CM · Oct 31st, 2009, 07:11 AM

Well welcome to the website. I find it odd you define yourself in your introduction as a Zionist and for that reason you have my pity. To follow such an ideology is akin to following Al Qaeda.

Nosherwan · Oct 31st, 2009, 07:50 AM

Shalom/Salaam,

Not for me to judge but you can't be Jewish and Athiest at the same time, Hebrew is an ethnicity/language so you can be a Hebrew Athiest or Hebrew Muslim but not a Jewish Athiest. Judaism is a religion and either you believe in it or you don't.

If you don't believe in God and Torah, seems a bit baseless believing that Judaism is hereditory.

And HaShem/Elohim/Jehovah/Allaah is not merely a tribal God of the Bani-Israel/Hebrews but rather the one true Diety of the whole universe/creation who sent many scriptures and prophets to many nations, not just the Hebrews or their Arab cousins.

I've got nothing against Judaism/Jews. I'm fascinated by the Jewish religion, it's a shame we can't get on with each other. I think we have a lot more in common than we don't, we both have big noses for one.

If it hadn't been for the Jews we'd probably not be allowed to perform circumcisions or ritually slaughter our animals under draining the blood...

....But I don't agree with the aparthied state of Israel and the oppression of the Palestinian people, I'm against Zionism but not Judaism or Jews.

The holocaust was awful and no people deserve that and I hate it when Muslim leaders deny it but why did Palestinians have to pay the price? If the West felt so bad about the crimes their people committed against the Jewish people they should have carved a Jewish country out of Germany or something to atone for their sins, why did they have to snatch the land of Palestinians and give it to the Ashkeneazi?

I think the Mizrahi Jews of Palestine have a right to Palestine as do Palestinian Muslims and Christians but not the Ashekenazi, the Ashekenazi are European/German not Middle Eastern.

falafel · Oct 31st, 2009, 09:31 AM

How do you see the killing session going on in Palestine in the name of Zionism?

hitchki · Oct 31st, 2009, 09:37 AM

What does Ata yah feh mean? And do you have anything similar to enrich my life with ?

hareem01 · Oct 31st, 2009, 09:39 AM

I don't think he's coming back. lol

hitchki · Oct 31st, 2009, 09:53 AM

its only been a day hareem lol, not everyone lives on top of their computer

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hitchki

What does Ata yah feh mean? And do you have anything similar to enrich my life with ?

"Ata yafeh" means "you (to a male) are beautiful".

hitchki · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:35 AM

ok, wrong gender. what about to a girl?

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hareem01

How do we know if you are what you say you are?

Well, I guess you can only trust me on this

And would I lie about it? Why would anyone lie about it?

hitchki · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:38 AM

no wait wait wait. how abouttttt do you want to go for drinks later.

(dont judge me)

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hitchki

ok, wrong gender. what about to a girl?

"At yafah".
But I am a male, so thank you. You got it just right.

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hareem01

AlexB

Now that you have mentioned that you're an athiest so may I know why don't you believe in God and follow your tribe's religion?

It's an interesting question, but turned somewhat upside down. If one believes in something, he/she should be able to justify this belief. I don't think you have to justify non-belief. I don't belief in gods in the same way I don't believe in pink invisible unicorns or an infinite number of other stuff that can be conjured by the human brain.

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CM

Well welcome to the website. I find it odd you define yourself in your introduction as a Zionist and for that reason you have my pity. To follow such an ideology is akin to following Al Qaeda.

Well, in my eyes, Zionism is a very righteous cause. In fact, I believe that any decent person should be a Zionist sympathizer.
Then again, from my experience "Zionism" is frequently used as a curse word to describe all kind of crazy things that have nothing to do with Zionism in reality.
I guess you and me have a very different idea about what Zionism is.

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PyariCgudia

Are you people serious?

He doesn't live in Israel, and probably doesn't have anything to do with military decisions in the middle east.

I do live in Israel, but you are right - I have nothing to do with the military decisions in the Middle East.

shardmanny · Oct 31st, 2009, 11:17 AM

did you serve in idf - see any action?

hareem01 · Oct 31st, 2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Well, I guess you can only trust me on this

And would I lie about it? Why would anyone lie about it?

Probably just to get some attention by pretending to be different.

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Originally Posted by AlexB

It's an interesting question, but turned somewhat upside down. If one believes in something, he/she should be able to justify this belief. I don't think you have to justify non-belief. I don't belief in gods in the same way I don't believe in pink invisible unicorns or an infinite number of other stuff that can be conjured by the human brain.

But isn't believing in nothing is a belief in itself and thus needs justification? Anyway, I'd discuss this in some other thread. I hope you enjoy your stay here.

Personally I hate Zionists in general.

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hareem01

Probably just to get some attention by pretending to be different.

But isn't believing in nothing is a belief in itself and thus needs justification? Anyway, I'd discuss this in some other thread. I hope you enjoy your stay here.

I did not say I was "believing in nothing". I simply don't believe in things I have no good reason no believe in. And speaking of the so called "revealed religions", like Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Bahai, and so on, the whole concept does not make much sense to me at all. I mean the "creator of the Universe" could find a better way to convey his message to humanity other than revealing it in a mysterious ways to a single person in a desert. Come on, I could do better than that, and I'm not claiming to be an omnipotent creator of everything.

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Originally Posted by hareem01

Personally I hate Zionists in general.

Thank you for hating me "in general" without even knowing me. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic).
Yet, I bet your concept of "Zionists" is very different from what Zionists are really about.

AlexB · Oct 31st, 2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shardmanny

did you serve in idf - see any action?

I did serve in the IDF, and I still do as a reservist. Seeing some action? Well, I can say I've seen some.