Shia Muslims Please Define Muttah

What is Muttah, I have heard that it is a contract marriage between a man and a woman with the intention of divorce. It is done in certain circumstances. I think this is endorsed by the Shia sect of muslims.If any one knows more about this strange practise then please define and clarify. Thankyou.

[Tariq Khan]

I am not shia', and also not a religious person at all, so dont quote me. I talked to a shia friend of mine, long time ago and he confirmed the practice of Muttah in shia faith.There is only one condition, though. Father of the girl has to permit it, without any fear or incentive.

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[Najim]

As we know marriage is a contract between a man and a woman to procreate the children to make them heirs of their property and have them legal rights. It basically has nothing to do with the religion. Now if you read the contract law you will see different types of contracts and you will also see how you have to fulfil your duties as to the contract and all the layout and blah blah blah. Same like any other contract ... contract of marriage has been described by Islam, there are some conditions to enter into this contract and there are some duties you have to fullfil if you are under this contract as being the party (where parties are male and female, with different set of duties). Now Islam only gives male the right to anull this marriage such as divorce. This right can be given to woman where she divorces herself. There is no such concept of divorcing a man by woman under Islamic law of marriage. Or she can go to court to get Khula, where court orders man to divorce his wife. This contract is life time long unless annulled.

Mutta: It is a type of marriage where you specify the Time of ending the contract i.e marriage for 1 day, 2 days, a year, two years .... etc etc and it is extendable. But the problem with this type of marriage is that woman doesn't need do go for "Iddat" and she can marry someone else the next day her mutta marriage finishes for another mutta or a regular marriage.

This problem has created lots of legal right for the children born due to the result of mutta marriage because no one was sure ... whose child is it ... particularly where another one day mutta was commenced soon after the one day one she finished.

Actually to be honest ... heera mandee and Qasaee Galee and such sort of bazaars in Pakistan are living because of this type of marriage. Otherwise everyone will be in the jails ....

If someone wants to know what is Iddat ... or why/how a woman have to do this iddat .. let me know and I'll explain.

[Muzna]

Before this thread gets too far into the topic . . .would the participants kindly move the discussion to the appropriate forum section under Religion . . .?

Thank you.

[DaPakiGuy]

Tempory marrige in IRAN. ( BBC NEW REPORT )

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/regional/s...riage_sq.shtml

[Aliyish]

I just consider it unadvisable and unappreciated in the time and manner , we are living now ! More or less Makroo.ay Thayree.Meee if you don’t consider it Haram .

[sweet_taboo]

Originally Posted by Najim

Actually to be honest ... heera mandee and Qasaee Galee and such sort of bazaars in Pakistan are living because of this type of marriage. Otherwise everyone will be in the jails ....

So most of the prostitutes in Pakistan belong to the Shiah faith?

Do they need a cleric, two witnesses and a guardian for the temporary-marriage to be valid?

Does it have to be on paper or is a spoken ceremony sufficient?

Are you sure no waiting period is required between two Muttahs?

In a way prostitution would be legal in Shiah countries, it would work quite well, perform a 30 min Muttah, do your business and pay the girl her fee/dowry/mahr...

[confused]

LAANAT HAY false alarm!

[Najim]

eh aj sattaan saalaaan pichhay kis day tid ich watt phirya ay ???

[ATA]

^-- Najim bhai 7 nahi 9 saal baad :-p

[Pathani]

Originally Posted by sweet_taboo

So most of the prostitutes in Pakistan belong to the Shiah faith?
^As usually, the stupidity, jahiliat and hatred towards Shias come out exact this way.....
A question to you:
So sex/rape/zinah with slaves or war captives is ok?

And a piece of free advice:
Go to MAJOR Shia religious websites, they will help out and even more....Im sure of it. How absurd to post your thread in General section!

Do they need a cleric, two witnesses and a guardian for the temporary-marriage to be valid?

Does it have to be on paper or is a spoken ceremony sufficient?

Are you sure no waiting period is required between two Muttahs?

In a way prostitution would be legal in Shiah countries, it would work quite well, perform a 30 min Muttah, do your business and pay the girl her fee/dowry/mahr...

So the followers/Sahabas of the time of Rasuulallah pbuh were doing mutah with prostitutes?

If you had any brain celles, you would ask yourself how mutah came into practice and when.....? This concept is NOT created by Shias.

And another version of "mutah" is practiced in Saudi Arabia...under some other arabic term, so I guess that makes all the arab women practicing this sort of "agreement" also prostitutes?

Actually, if you turn it 180 degrees, then you would know Mutah can be of 100 years and with no option of talaq.

[saaretjie]

OK... so let's say you take a girl out on a date.

You give her flowers and buy her dinner. (Let's assume it's in a Western country, so her father is aware that his daughter is going to "do it" with the guy), and after that you sleep with that girl?

Is that considered Muta?

[Pathani]

Originally Posted by Najim

Now Islam only gives male the right to anull this marriage such as divorce. This right can be given to woman where she divorces herself. There is no such concept of divorcing a man by woman under Islamic law of marriage. Or she can go to court to get Khula, where court orders man to divorce his wife. This contract is life time long unless annulled.

The way you have written the entire proces of marraige contra talaq/divorce is headline item for western countries and anti Muslims orgs. Again, just for your own amusement....to show men have the upper hand in talaq issue, your type really hurt the glorious magnificent message of Islam. There were cases of talaq at time of Rasuulallah pbuh. A woman doesnt need a reason for divorce. If she doesnt want him as hubby, thats all it takes. He needs not to be the culpit of negligance etc.

Mutta: It is a type of marriage where you specify the Time of ending the contract i.e marriage for 1 day, 2 days, a year, two years .... etc etc and it is extendable. But the problem with this type of marriage is that woman doesn't need do go for "Iddat" and she can marry someone else the next day her mutta marriage finishes for another mutta or a regular marriage.

This problem has created lots of legal right for the children born due to the result of mutta marriage because no one was sure ... whose child is it ... particularly where another one day mutta was commenced soon after the one day one she finished.

Actually to be honest ... heera mandee and Qasaee Galee and such sort of bazaars in Pakistan are living because of this type of marriage. Otherwise everyone will be in the jails ....
Im sorry to ask you so bluntly, but did you commit mutah with any from these bazaars...since you are 100 % sure of your verdict? I gather its just the same old tale of here-say? We dont live in a perfect world. Prostitution is going on in every country of the world. Pakistan is not extra ordinary having bazaars.

You wish to display that the prostitutes only have Shia clients comming the Bazaar? (Both have to be Shia to do Mutah)
I recommend that the buyers of such services should be jailed. That would really end this chapter.

[Jal_Pari]

Originally Posted by DaPakiGuy

Tempory marrige in IRAN. ( BBC NEW REPORT )

very interesting article. It is funny one of my irani co-worker thinks it is absolutely wrong that islam permits 4 wives...but she thinks muttah is abslutely fine and allowed
confused iranis

[queer]

well for one, this mutah thing sounds fairer to both parties than the 4 wives thing.

[Jal_Pari]

Originally Posted by queer

well for one, this mutah thing sounds fairer to both parties than the 4 wives thing.

ya it should have been 4 to 4

[Zabardast]

Some infos about Muttah

[sweet_taboo]

Originally Posted by Pathani

So the followers/Sahabas of the time of Rasuulallah pbuh were doing mutah with prostitutes?

If you had any brain celles, you would ask yourself how mutah came into practice and when.....? This concept is NOT created by Shias.

And another version of "mutah" is practiced in Saudi Arabia...under some other arabic term, so I guess that makes all the arab women practicing this sort of "agreement" also prostitutes?

Actually, if you turn it 180 degrees, then you would know Mutah can be of 100 years and with no option of talaq.

I was simply questioning Najim, his post implied they were Shiahs because in the Sunni denomination Muttah was banned by the Prophet :saw: and then rebanned by his second deputy 'Umar when the latter saw that some people were oblivious to the Prophet's :saw: ban on it.

[alig_reinvented]

Originally Posted by SuperMan

What is Muttah, I have heard that it is a contract marriage between a man and a woman with the intention of divorce. It is done in certain circumstances. I think this is endorsed by the Shia sect of muslims.If any one knows more about this strange practise then please define and clarify. Thankyou.

Its a practice that the prophet allowed I believe in certain circumstances.

Later one of the first three caliphs decided that it shouldn't go on. People who didn't side with the caliph on other issues, ignored the ruling. Most of those people were shia folks, along with some other sunni groups.


Thats the political aspect of it, in a nutshell. Its not a religious thing. Absolutely not.

[Najim]

All those who are blamming me for saying that RLDs of Pakistan are only run by Shia are completely wrong.

I am saying, "Human, all religions are taking advantage of this Shia law to run the dirty business, since the law is accepted by the courts of Pakistan. Where does it say that a Sunni cannot do Muttah? So Sunnis are using the Shia marriage muttah in the RLDs as well as Shias."

Hope I have cleared the mis-guided minds.

[Najim]

Pathani, prove a single point wrong, that i have written in my post 9 years ago. You can argue about 100 things but what I said is 100% true. Forutnately, I did finish my apprenticeship of LL.B in Session Court Lahore. Engouh said, nothing more left.

[bhenjee]

never knew abt this thing....... im like starryeyedsurprised right now......

soo... wat kinda circumstances lead to this 'muttah' ? like citizenship/visa issues?? or property/ will issues....?? or simply cuz it kinda legalizes ur gettin laid (by ur government and NOT in the court of Allah) without havin to feel guilty?

[ravage]

think this belongs in religion

[ATA]

Najim ... bohat buray phansay aaj 9 saal baad :-DD

[Pathani]

Originally Posted by bhenjee

never knew abt this thing....... im like starryeyedsurprised right now......

soo... wat kinda circumstances lead to this 'muttah' ? like citizenship/visa issues?? or property/ will issues....?? or simply cuz it kinda legalizes ur gettin laid (by ur government and NOT in the court of Allah) without havin to feel guilty?

Look, if you arent informed about a sudden religious practice, that does not make it wrong.... This was practiced by Sahabas at the time of Prophet Muhammed pbuh. Now, ask yourself why did it come in practice?

Do some research instead of just making your own "personal fatwa".

God has created sexuality in human kind. It does not go away just because a person is single etc. This practice is also done in sudden Arab societies, so we cant say its beyond the decree of the laws of Islam. Different schorlars have their view when it comes to mutah.

Mutah is NOT for girls whom are unmarried. They need to stay virgin and keep themselves pure. Mutah is for those woman, widows and divorcees.....
You cant deny the fact, our society especially our men prefer to have virgin girls to get married to. Its perfectly ok, but where are the out siders suppose to go or to do? Should widows or divorcees then turn to zinah because they can not control their need? We cant just say, its expected of women to deny their sexuality. Its do-able for a time limit...but then, we are human and end of the day, no one can remain without total physical contact at an young age.....
When things really go bad, it turns to honour killings...because society looks down upon the males of the family whom can not "control" their female relatives......

I might be annoying some due to my very forward way of addressing this issue, but I think, I can handle it due to my choice of further studies and current proffession.

So, if women stands between the choice of zinah or mutah, for heavens sake, Id say...go for mutah. There is no excuse for zinah when mutah is an option, God has given man kind. We can argue why and by who it was all of sudden no longer right to practice in Islam. I shall try to find hadice etc historical reference, to put it at larger aspect.

[bhenjee]

^^ ok, in all due respect, we totally can't compare ourselves to the lives of those who were there in the times of our holy Prophet (pbuh). in that case, he himself married countless women to save them from slavery and other inhuman treatment, however, in Islam, men are only allowed 4 wives!

anDDD, dude, instead of giving anyone a choice between 'zinah' n 'muttah', why not give anyone who's hormonally challenged the choice between 'zinaah' n 'nikaah'!!!!

with all your knowledge and professional background..... why dont you enlighten me and the rest of us in the CORRECT teachings of Islam, post some url's for us to read upon.

in my understanding of ISLAM, sLEEPING WITH ANYONE WITH WHOM YOU DONT HAVE UR NIKAAH DONE IS HARAAAAAAAAAAM!!

[Pathani]

Originally Posted by alig_reinvented

Its a practice that the prophet allowed I believe in certain circumstances.

Later one of the first three caliphs decided that it shouldn't go on. People who didn't side with the caliph on other issues, ignored the ruling. Most of those people were shia folks, along with some other sunni groups.


Thats the political aspect of it, in a nutshell. Its not a religious thing. Absolutely not.

I dont know of other incidents in historical perspective, where a sudden khalifa objects/annuals a practice that has been legalized by Prophet Muhammed pbuh?
Doesnt it take a new law bearing prophet to