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Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 09:52 AM by Afro-Sheen

Is playing the lotto really considered gambling & is it really haram? I am a bit confused. To me it's not like your cheating anyone, your just taking a chance, and you either win/lose, but its just your odds. Not like you do anything wrong to make your odds better....etc.

On the same token, going to a casino and playing just a few rounds for fun, is that really wrong. My mom has always told me how it's haram, but I never really got it, just agreed. It is one thing I am an addict, but what if I just buy say $25-50 in coins "for fun" or kicks...and play a few games. I am NOT even expecting to win, but just for fun....is that wrong??

I was thinking of a last minute trip down to Atlantic City, but if all I can do there is go to the beach/boardwalk I am better off going to Point Pleasant or Belmar or elsewhere...dunno. Hmm what do you guys think?

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	Go to Cape May instead Afro About the gambling part - I think it's the whole concept of someone losing money and someone winning. I think it's fun to just watch the high rollers. Maybe they'll just drop $1000 chip and I'll pick it up.
	Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:00 AM by njgal

	i duno, i think they say its haram cz its wasting money that can be better usd towards other stuff
	Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:14 AM by Sara516

Yes Lotto is haram. The reason is that Islam does not encourage money that you havnt earned through hard work ... and any money that can be addictive ... if you win it once , you will keep going back to it...
What Islam supports is halal money, eg : you start a business and it starts doing really well .. that is halal money.

About your casino bit , why not jsut take a bottle of wine and have a few sips saying you are thirsty and nothing else..

No , anything that is addictive , we are told to stay away from it , because its only the first step that is the hardest to take , once you have taken that first step , nothing in this world will be able to stop you from getting deeper and deeper into it.

As a muslim , always respect what the holy book and the Sunnah teaches us ... we as muslims shouldnt be encouraging each other to play lotto or go to the casino.Rest Allah knows best.

Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:15 AM by Chicken Biryani Chicken Biryani is offline

	sex is addictive.
	Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:16 AM by Sara516

Thanks Chicken Biriyani, but I am not trying to encourage, just wondering.. What you said pretty much sums up what my ammi tells me.

I just don't see the comparison o fplaying lotta/casino with liquor or otherwise. Is investing in stocks/bonds haram as well. I have heard tha tis fine, but just don't get it, similar odds of gaining/losing money with that as well.

NJgal, Id love to go to cape may, but no casinos

no but seriously it is a little too far south, isnt that the tip of NJ.

Now with the lotto thing, it is not like you are lying or scandal or cheating anyone for money, taking your fair chance like the other millions of people. So confused. I still don't get WHY is it haram.

Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:26 AM by Afro-Sheen Afro-Sheen is offline

	well when lotto/gambling gets addictive... u can ruin your life... go deep into debt, start stealing/selling stuff just to pay it back.... same with alcohol, it may be harmless fun but if it gets addictive u can ruin your health, kill others if u drive, etc.
	Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 10:49 AM by Sara516

	Afro , Things we say might not make sense for you , you will question back , its natural, I suggest why dont you look up on internet and find answers to your question ... that way you will know you have invested your time and energy to find out if something is haraam , and why it is haraam.
	Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 11:05 AM by Chicken Biryani

	Thanks for the replys guys. I will do some more googling.
	Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 11:09 AM by Afro-Sheen

Afro.. just a quick suggestion.. don't google an Islamic issue.. rather, find a good reputable website and search that for any thing that you are looking for.. there are way too many websites out there issuing fatwas and what not without being any alim in deen.

I say start with islamicity.com.. Q&A section, you will find pretty much everything there and of course continue looking for authentic websites instead of relying on googling. :-)

Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 11:22 AM by Gemini the Great Gemini the Great is offline

	Gemini thanks, will check out islamicity.com. It is blocked at work so gotta wait till I get home.
	Posted Jul 1st, 2009 at 11:27 AM by Afro-Sheen