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Old Oct 17th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #1 (permalink)  
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So I'm banned from the Pakistan Affairs forum, and it would be nice to know why so at least I am aware of it.

I would normally PM but this is easier so the mod who was responsible can step up and explain why he did so.

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Old Oct 17th, 2009, 02:33 AM   #2 (permalink)  
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Old Oct 20th, 2009, 02:19 PM   #3 (permalink)  
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I'm banned from there too. That is the first step. I am not banned from the World Affairs and Military Affairs forum as well. The amusing thing is I rarely posted at the latter!

Face it, Pakistanis can't handle dissenting views. This is one reason why Pakistan is where it is today. How can a society change when it cannot even handle hearing dissenting views? Pakistan has never produced a Thomas Jefferson because the Jeffersons of Pakistan are ignored at best, killed at worst.






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Old Oct 20th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #4 (permalink)  
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Maybe you need to face it that you can't discuss in a civilized manner.






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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 11:36 AM   #5 (permalink)  
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Maybe you need to face it that you can't discuss in a civilized manner.
So what does "civilized" mean to you? Bashing on India and Jews? Accusing others of being a Zionist when you're not to begin with? Pointing out the flaws that exist amongst Muslims and the countries where Muslim-majorities hold?






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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 11:44 AM   #6 (permalink)  
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Well well well
look who is talking.

I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to find out why you are banned. I have banned by two Indian forum for only putting 2 article that were negative about India and they kicked me out before i could even ask the moderators what i did wrong.

The mere fact that GS moderators did tolerate you and are still tolerating (kuddo's' to them because freedom of speech above all) yet you are not willing to accept what you did wrong.

I think If i was moderator i would have taken this step much earlier because you did not post for the sake of discussion but only to bash bash bash and thats not the way to conversate mates.

I would love to argue with you because that is your right but when you do nothing but systematicly bring down the people of Pakistan, its army and the country of Pakistan and when you systematicly all the time bash and humiliate the Muslims and Islam and call Islam a "fascist" religion then i fail to understand that YOU fail to understand you are wrong.

I do not feel happy when anyone is banned but i am against humiliating and targeting ONE group/country/religion.







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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 11:57 AM   #7 (permalink)  
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I do not feel happy when anyone is banned but i am against humiliating and targeting ONE group/country/religion.
So I guess you are against humiliating all non-Muslim women as "whores" then?






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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 12:02 PM   #8 (permalink)  
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Usually, person has been warned few times before removing his/her access from certain forum. If those whose access is removed were never warned before and this is your first warning which resulted in removal of access, please PM Lusi with your concern







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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 12:03 PM   #9 (permalink)  
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i think you are more ignorant then i thought
with all due respect of course!! nothing personal dhj786.

Yes yes yes (do i need to buy airtime on CNN to explain myself? lolz) i am against
calling ANYONE (muslim or non muslim) a whore.
Its most disrespectful and not to me to decide who is what, because i am the worst of all sinners indeed.


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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 12:39 PM   #10 (permalink)  
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Well, there is one suggestion for the mods here to keep track of all the conflicting statements of persons getting banned, the reason should be strong enough to support your actions so that when they come back to you, you can put up all what they posted earlier that become the reason of getting them out.

This is also necessary to make it sure that even mods are not above any accountability.







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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 12:55 PM   #11 (permalink)  
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Oh look, another personal attack on me by CM, of all people.

It must be easy to insult while hiding so cowardly. Just thought I'd bring it to the mods' attention, but I don't expect much to happen due to favoritism. It's okay to accuse others of being a 'racist pig' without any evidence.






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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 01:09 PM   #12 (permalink)  
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He is issued a warning for that






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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 02:27 PM   #13 (permalink)  
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It might be helpful for new members if the rules clearly mentioned that anything posted against Pakistan (country, people, politicians, army, religion etc) will not be tolerated and will result in a ban.

I think the hypocrisy comes in when posts against Indians/Hindus/Jews/Israel/USA etc are ignored while those against Pak/Muslims/Islam result in a ban. As a discussion forum, all views should be respected as long as the language used is proper.







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It might be helpful for new members if the rules clearly mentioned that anything posted against Pakistan (country, people, politicians, army, religion etc) will not be tolerated and will result in a ban.

I think the hypocrisy comes in when posts against Indians/Hindus/Jews/Israel/USA etc are ignored while those against Pak/Muslims/Islam result in a ban. As a discussion forum, all views should be respected as long as the language used is proper.
Well mister last time i checked GS was a Pakistani forum but open to everyone even if you have different viewpoint. But every forum has its own rules and regulations.
In Indian forums the same rules apply. When the memebers in Indian forums insult Pakistan (country, people, politicians, army, religion etc) then no action is taken. I have been to many Indian forums and u also i am sure.

But when anyone says something against India then they kick you out. So stay cool and just read what you post on GS and u will come to conclusion its nothing constructive.






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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 03:06 PM   #15 (permalink)  
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It might be helpful for new members if the rules clearly mentioned that anything posted against Pakistan (country, people, politicians, army, religion etc) will not be tolerated and will result in a ban.

I think the hypocrisy comes in when posts against Indians/Hindus/Jews/Israel/USA etc are ignored while those against Pak/Muslims/Islam result in a ban. As a discussion forum, all views should be respected as long as the language used is proper.

being a Paki/Muslim dominated forum, anything against Pakistan or Islam does catch the eye first, I am not going to deny that, nevertheless when it comes to not tolerating the insult of a religion, religious figure or any other leader, we follow the same policies.






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Old Oct 21st, 2009, 03:17 PM   #16 (permalink)  
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Well mister last time i checked GS was a Pakistani forum but open to everyone even if you have different viewpoint. But every forum has its own rules and regulations.
In Indian forums the same rules apply. When the memebers in Indian forums insult Pakistan (country, people, politicians, army, religion etc) then no action is taken. I have been to many Indian forums and u also i am sure.

But when anyone says something against India then they kick you out. So stay cool and just read what you post on GS and u will come to conclusion its nothing constructive.
I am not aware of the policies or goings-on on Indian forums since I do not visit any But basically what you are saying is that because something wrong happens on some Indian forums, the same thing happening on GS is justified ??

What lame logic !!






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It might be helpful for new members if the rules clearly mentioned that anything posted against Pakistan (country, people, politicians, army, religion etc) will not be tolerated and will result in a ban.

I think the hypocrisy comes in when posts against Indians/Hindus/Jews/Israel/USA etc are ignored while those against Pak/Muslims/Islam result in a ban. As a discussion forum, all views should be respected as long as the language used is proper.
are you banned? It is easy to level charges of bias and non tolerant but look at your posts and how every thread in PA/WA was being derailed by the same arguments everytime. It applies to all trolls not just Indians.






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being a Paki/Muslim dominated forum, anything against Pakistan or Islam does catch the eye first, I am not going to deny that, nevertheless when it comes to not tolerating the insult of a religion, religious figure or any other leader, we follow the same policies.
I agree that there is much more consistency when it comes to comments against religion. Full credit to the religion forum mods

However, the same cannot be said for political discussions in WA/PA and even Military Affairs. A quick scan of the WA forum is all it would take to see this inconsistency.






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Thanks for bringing it up Punjabee. I will notify Lusi of your concern. She will look into that issue.






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are you banned? It is easy to level charges of bias and non tolerant but look at your posts and how every thread in PA/WA was being derailed by the same arguments everytime. It applies to all trolls not just Indians.
Yes, I am banned from WA/PA/Military Affairs

If the same issues are raised everytime, they need to be countered by the same facts/arguements. However, I did challenge the mod to show me a single post of mine which was abusive, solely intended to derail the topic, provoke or flame. As expected, no response...

On the contrary, name calling and abusive posts by certain other members were condoned. I could rattle of a list of names here, but I dont think that serves any purpose.

And I am not talking about a bias & non-tolerance against Indians. I would be surprised if that did not exist at some level. I am talking about bias displayed by some mods towards anyone who talks against the commonly held beliefs - Indian or Pakistani.






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