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Old Sep 14th, 2002, 01:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone had any experiences with such devices and are they dependable? I know of one; the USR 8000A model. Is it really a router/hub or am I reading that wrong? It says file and data sharing. I thought those types didn't exist, so that's why I'm asking. Are there any other companies that offer this kind of thing?

http://www.usr.com/products/networki...p?sku=USR8000a

Thanks in advance







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Old Sep 14th, 2002, 09:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello Wolf, Wuff Wuff,

There are tons of companies who offers the same with their devices
like

SMC
LinkSys
3Com
Belkin
Xircom
Intel
D-Link

The SMC 7004BR, USR 8000, Asante FriendlyNet FR3004LC, D-Link 704, Accton AC IG1004, 3Com 3c510 and Edimax BR-6004 are all AMIT HiP-400E clones. The steps are therefore the same for all even though the layout is different. You can use any of them but the D-Link and Edimax do not come with a print server though.

All of the above router supports PPPoA thru PPTP-Relay with latest firmware. External modem must be configured as well.

Linksys router also has PPTP support but only if you are assigned static IP from your ISP.






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Old Sep 14th, 2002, 09:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Note: If you are using Ethernet gateway routers, then make sure have your modem configured properly first. If you are using your modem just as fine directly to the PC, then you do not need to change anything on it unless you plan to use a different connection method like from PPPoE to PPPoA

There are two type of routers here. One is with a DSL WAN port while the other is with a Ethernet WAN port. Those with Ethernet WAN port are known as gateway routers while those with DSL WAN port are known as DSL router.

The difference between these two is that gateway routers requires an external modem to work with. The advantage is that it can work with any modem with an Ethernet port. That means that you can interswitch between cable or DSL or any internet connection which modem has an Ethernet port. The disadvantage is that it can only work with a bridge in DSL case, therefore 1577 type of DSL will not work with these routers.

The router with a DSL WAN port are for DSL only but it do not require an external modem. It will also support all type of ADSL. There are no router like this for cable yet

If you use a router with a single public IP address, then you must switch NAPT on. This may cause some programs to stop working properly as it used to be.

Another thing to take note is regarding PPPoE. If this is the only way for you to get connected, then read on internet about PPPoE and MTU size






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Old Sep 15th, 2002, 02:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks but what I guress I'm most worried about is wether these devices are more dependable or better than a router and hub seperately? Also are all routers with multiple output ports, routers/hubs? Thanks again!






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Old Sep 16th, 2002, 07:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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RT, I don't think there's a need to worry when it comes to router/hub devices... very soon the term "hub" would include inbuilt "routers" in them. This is just the technology trend in networking. We had repeaters and hubs... then repeaters were made part of hubs... as computing needs demanded more out of the network, the two were integrated into "active hubs"... nobody calls'em active hubs though...
next is the router hub marriage and if the trend continues... u would even have switches built in someday.

Just thought I'd mention this as an anecdote to your dilemma.






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Old Sep 20th, 2002, 11:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Umar Talib:
RT, I don't think there's a need to worry when it comes to router/hub devices... very soon the term "hub" would include inbuilt "routers" in them. This is just the technology trend in networking. We had repeaters and hubs... then repeaters were made part of hubs... as computing needs demanded more out of the network, the two were integrated into "active hubs"... nobody calls'em active hubs though...
next is the router hub marriage and if the trend continues... u would even have switches built in someday.

Just thought I'd mention this as an anecdote to your dilemma.
Very true. :K:






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Old Sep 20th, 2002, 08:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't know about that but this one is pretty good:

http://www.netgear.com/product_view....yrp=12&zrp=131

Supports PPPOE and about MTU size... thats very important. If you don't have that setup right, you might as well cancle the net connection because you won't be getting on the net with incorrect MTU size.

Whats MTU?

MTU (Maximum Transfer Unit) - thats the largest packet size an interface can handle. Default for Ethernet is 1500KB. To check what is limit of MTU on your connection run this DOS command: ping -f -l 1400 www.pak.org (if you don't get ping reply back with "1400" keep decreasing the size of the packet until you get the ping reply and thats your MTU.

To add MTU size in your registery settings do this(for win2000):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSe
t\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{xxxxx
xxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}\MTU="1400"
(xxx... < is the interface you are trying to configure MTU on. So lets say if you have an interface with IP address of 192.168.0.4, you would add MTU DWORD value in there. (you will see atleast three interfaces there, but only one/two would be working depending on kind of network connection you have.

For win98:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSe
t\Services\Class

\NetTrans\000x\MaxMTU="1400" (STRING Value)

000x is your interface, again look for the IP...






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Old Sep 21st, 2002, 01:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Umar Talib:
RT, I don't think there's a need to worry when it comes to router/hub devices... very soon the term "hub" would include inbuilt "routers" in them. This is just the technology trend in networking. We had repeaters and hubs... then repeaters were made part of hubs... as computing needs demanded more out of the network, the two were integrated into "active hubs"... nobody calls'em active hubs though...
next is the router hub marriage and if the trend continues... u would even have switches built in someday.

Just thought I'd mention this as an anecdote to your dilemma.
Anecdotal evidence, very nice. I now have no fear in buying this new tech. Do you know when the router marriage was, I wanted to attend?

Thanks Rangeela Guppy, I'll keep that in mind.






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