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Nov 5th, 2009, 12:34 PM
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chaloo jee kufer toota khuda khuda ker k. Main nai bhee Thread open kia. Now my record is not that good in following Pakistan as Pakistan has lost 80% of the matches that I pay and buy to watch.
Lets keep the fingers crossed with this new thread
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Match facts
Friday, November 6
Start time
- 16:30 India (Delhi Time)
- 16:00 Pakistan ST
- 15:00 UAE Time
- 11:00 GMT
- 06:00 EST
- 05:00 CST
- 03:00 PST
Big Picture
The ICC World Twenty20 apart, Pakistan have not been good at winning series or tournaments in recent years. They haven't won a Test series in three years and an ODI series for a year. Their win at the Sheikh Zayed stadium on Tuesday has, however, given them an ideal opportunity to change that statistic on Friday.
They are in good shape to do it as well; most of their bowlers looked sharp and took wickets, the fielding wasn't a mess either, the lower middle order was in the runs and Shahid Afridi is in irrepressible mood. The only real issue was Salman Butt's less than convincing return, though in fairness, Pakistan's lack of opening strength has been an issue for so long, it has become a non-issue. Younis Khan's duck will be a graver concern, as it represents a longer pattern of ODI indifference this year. If they win the series another low score might not hurt so much, but it will be gnawing away at him.
Though they were thumped, New Zealand have little reason to be disheartened. They know they were in the game for quite some time only really giving it away in the last 15 overs of their bowling. Kyle Mills and James Franklin are a handy pair to welcome back from injury; if Shane Bond's schizophrenic outing - his second spell was as poor as the first was magnificent - was just a one-off, then there exists a more than workable pace attack.
Of greater concern looked the batting; at times some of their batsmen looked genuinely out of their depth against Mohammad Aamer and Saeed Ajmal. In fairness that may also have been exacerbated by playing in unfamiliar conditions - Australia earlier this year also took time to adjust, but they eventually did so in the end. At least they have got the one obligatory Pakistan-induced collapse - the last six wickets fell for 30 - out of the way.
Form guide (most recent first)
New Zealand LLWWW
Pakistan WWLLW
Watch put for
The likely return of the world's top-ranked ODI bowler. If the surface is similar to the one on which the first game was played, Kyle Mills will enjoy it a fair bit. He is at his best when there is a little spice in the conditions, with the new ball, as he showed in his last ODI outing during the Champions Trophy final. Against a nervy top-order, it could be fun viewing.
If you can take your eyes off Afridi, there are a host of men: Kamran Akmal, his younger brother, Aamer, Ajmal, Gul. But the more discerning Pakistani will keep an eye on Khalid Latif. His maiden ODI fifty on Tuesday was slow, mostly unremarkable, but vital and it presented an interesting change of type: he is not, by nature, a sluggish player at all as one glance at his domestic feats will reveal. But he has long been talked about as a potential opener for Pakistan and so his progress, more than the others, will be keenly followed.
Teams
Mills and James Franklin are both in with a chance of playing and the former, if fit, is likely to walk straight back in. Jacob Oram didn't look too flash in the first ODI, with bat or ball, so Franklin's left-handed all-roundedness is a real option.
New Zealand (probable): Aaron Redmond, Brendon McCullum (wk), Martin Guptill, Ross Taylor, Scott Styris, Daniel Vettori (capt), Jacob Oram/James Franklin, Neil McCullum, Shane Bond, Kyle Mills, Tim Southee
Why change an XI that can do what it did in the first ODI? People will crib about Butt, but now that he is back, persisting with him for one more game makes sense.
Pakistan (probable): Salman Butt, Khalid Latif, Younis Khan (capt), Mohammad Yousuf, Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Kamran Akmal (wk), Abdul Razzaq, Umar Gul, Mohammad Aamer, Saeed Ajmal
Pitch and conditions
The pitch for the first ODI was actually an ideal surface for the format. There was plenty of help for bowlers early on, movement for the faster ones and turn for spinners, but if they didn't get it right - as New Zealand's bowlers found in the second half of their innings - there were plenty of runs on offer. If the second match is played on a similar surface, there will be some more cracking cricket.
Stats and trivia
In 11 ODIs in the UAE against Pakistan, New Zealand have yet to register a single win
Afridi's Man-of-the-Match award in the first ODI was his third in Abu Dhabi and Dubai, in only 13 games Pakistan have played at the venues
In his last 31 ODIs Daniel Vettori has conceded over six runs an over only twice and five runs just seven times
Quotes
"It is important that we keep the winning momentum, win the second after which we have a chance of a clean sweep."
Younis Khan is targetting an unassailable lead over New Zealand.
"Afridi has got to another level as a bowler and the partnership he is forming with Ajmal is real key to Pakistan's success. We played Ajmal in the Champions Trophy and know we can handle him."
Daniel Vettori is all praise for Pakistan's spin duo.
jisey hum sai milna, gawara nahee hai, hum sai mila na karey.....
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Nov 5th, 2009, 12:42 PM
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So are you watching the match on TV? You can save us a lot of trouble. 
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Nov 5th, 2009, 12:45 PM
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So are you watching the match on TV? You can save us a lot of trouble. 
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I have paid for it BUT because its a working day, i might not be able to watch it live ..... 
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Nov 5th, 2009, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Decent 6Chora
chaloo jee kufer toota khuda khuda ker k. Main nai bhee Thread open kia. Now my record is not that good in following Pakistan as Pakistan has lost 80% of the matches that I pay and buy to watch.
Lets keep the fingers crossed with this new thread 
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agar Pakistan kul ka match harra toh 
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Nov 5th, 2009, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Decent 6Chora
I have paid for it BUT because its a working day, i might not be able to watch it live ..... 
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all the games including the 2 T20s are on the working days. Direct TV is not showing it on TV so I decided not to waste my money on the willow TV link.
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Nov 5th, 2009, 03:15 PM
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all the games including the 2 T20s are on the working days. Direct TV is not showing it on TV so I decided not to waste my money on the willow TV link.
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But I have wasted it 
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Nov 5th, 2009, 03:16 PM
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Pakistan's lack of opening strength has been an issue for so long, it has become a non-issue.
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Yes I shall be watching this inshaAllah (if i wake up) 
LP DeeDee Chup Chup! *inspired by Burpee*
Sometimes our vision clears only after our eyes are washed away with tears.
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Nov 5th, 2009, 03:26 PM
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Yes I shall be watching this inshaAllah (if i wake up) 
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Free wakeup calls
Snoozester: Wake up calls, Reminder Calls

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Nov 5th, 2009, 03:28 PM
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Why thank you 
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Nov 5th, 2009, 10:45 PM
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any free link bhai log????
"How long? Not long, cause what you reap is what you sow"
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Nov 6th, 2009, 02:55 AM
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Vice President Paklinks
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So are we going to play with 10 players and Salman or will we go in with 11 players and that doesn't mean Farhat instead of salman.
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Nov 6th, 2009, 04:59 AM
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Okay kahaan hain sub 
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:03 AM
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OH. I looked at EST, whats that?  I'm looking at GMT right  Erm so 45 minutes to go. I see I see. I hope this match is worth it. I carried my huge laptop to uni for this 
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:17 AM
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Vice President Paklinks
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For you Inzi 
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:19 AM
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Thanks  Waise what is EST then? I looked at it thinking its English Summer Time or something but then I realised its not even Summer so why would we be using that  Damn I'm so dumb sometimes
Oh and I'm gonna need a link, OR I'll have to be coming down to yours to watch it Ehsan Uncle 
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:26 AM
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EST is Eastern standard Time. It is one of the time zones in America. UK is GMT. I am at work and will be keeping in touch via cricinfo.
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:27 AM
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NZ has won the toss and will bat.
Vettori has chosen to bat. "We want to replicate what Pakistan did last time and give us a good chance. Shane Bond showed that early on if you put pressure, you can take wickets. Mills is back, its good to have him back. I think the spinners play huge role in ODI, and even Twenty20 games."
Younis Khan: "It's a good chance for Pakistan. The bounce is consistent; its a good ODI wicket. If we can chase something around 250, it will be very easy for us."
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:35 AM
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Teams for the match:
NZ are playing with 11 players while Pakistan are playing with 10 plus Salman.
New Zealand team
AJ Redmond, BB McCullum†, MJ Guptill, LRPL Taylor, SB Styris, NT Broom, DL Vettori*, JDP Oram, TG Southee, KD Mills, SE Bond
Pakistan team
Salman Butt, Khalid Latif, Younis Khan*, Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Malik, Shahid Afridi, Kamran Akmal†, Abdul Razzaq, Umar Gul, Mohammad Aamer, Saeed Ajmal
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:37 AM
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NZ are playing with 11 players while Pakistan are playing with 10 plus Salman.
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Nov 6th, 2009, 05:55 AM
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Good Luck Pakistan
Is it available on TY.V?India's nationl instrument 
2010-Paris,Normandy,Berlin(Bendlerblock)
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