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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 01:30 PM   #1
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Anyone care to explain what mangalsutra is?

Can someone please describe and explain the significance of the mangalsutra in the Indian culture.

Please also explain it's religious significance.








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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 01:56 PM   #2
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You guys dont know what Mangulsutra is?






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 02:25 PM   #3
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don't tell me Muzna you've never watched Indian movies.. like.. ever!

all i gathered from them is that it's like a 'necklace' worn by a married woman which signifies her marital status.

There may definitely be more to it.. but hey .. that's all that rubbed off on me from those Indian movies!!

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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 02:57 PM   #4
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It is actually an Arabic tradition called Mang-Ul-Sutra that some Hindus has adopted but it is pretty much indianized now. Now if you ask Andhra or some other indians here they will make up stories and tell you how Parvati ji used to wear it and how Vishnu ji made it for her from the hairs of an ant.






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 03:06 PM   #5
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Some muslim womens in india wear mangalsutra too..
Konkani muslims..Muslims fr0m hyderabad..
and even christians...






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 03:11 PM   #6
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Yes, muslim women call it Latcha. Same thing as manglesutra. Its a beautiful necklace kinda like the wedding ring in the west to show that the woman is married.

Surprised that I know my culture?

Not in Paki culture?

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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 03:28 PM   #7
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how is mangalsutra or latcha different from a normal gold chain...i mean the design...
does it need to have a certain design or something...






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 04:10 PM   #8
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Muzna Jee, thank you for bringing up the question for clarification. Thanks for replies all.






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 04:15 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChannMahi:
It is actually an Arabic tradition called Mang-Ul-Sutra that some Hindus has adopted but it is pretty much indianized now. Now if you ask Andhra or some other indians here they will make up stories and tell you how Parvati ji used to wear it and how Vishnu ji made it for her from the hairs of an ant.
Chann ji, no in arabic it was "Mang-Al-Sutra" , Arabic is such a language that a simple "u" in a word can change the whole meaning.

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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 04:24 PM   #10
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minime, thanks for correcting me..anyways it was very close.






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 04:33 PM   #11
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This thing, mangalsuter or lacha, is always black, right?

With gold in it.

So this is another indication of the marital status of women?

There is already
  • the red paint in her hair (maang bharni),
  • the colorful clothes (widows only wear white, or atleast are supposed to),
  • and the bangles (the always dramatic second scene in Indian movies when the mother of the hero smashes her bangles when the news arrives that her honest and brave police inspector husband is killed by the dakoo in the jungle, accompanied by a heart-rendering "Nahiiiiiiiiiiiii").






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 04:42 PM   #12
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Devil-

You're Indian, u should know what a Latcha or Mangulsutra looks like. No it is more than a gold chain, there's a cameo like jewel studded thing, lots of gold and designs and stuff.

Muslim women Mang nahin bharte. Hindu tradition not copied by muslims. i don't know about bangles, I'll ask Mum.


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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 05:02 PM   #13
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Channmahi Bhai, I am not that imaginative.
There is a guy here called Ibrahim, who wants to proove Manu of Hinduism is actually Muslim.
Now if you ask him, he will say
It is 'Al-Sutr-Mang' Arabic for 'The-TNecklace-Love' a tradition started by Noah and adopted by HIndus, though they don't know it http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/wink.gifhttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/wink.gifhttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/wink.gifhttp://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/wink.gif






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 07:22 PM   #14
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Does it have any relationship to 'kamasutra'?


Chann ji, please, that's a serious (on a second thought make that 'a very serious') question.






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Old Feb 28th, 2002, 08:58 PM   #15
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Yes roman...very close relationship...if your Manga does not have any Kama then your Sutra is going to be kutra kutra(TukRay TukRay).






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Old Mar 1st, 2002, 04:44 AM   #16
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Sorry guys mung cannot be an arabic word as there is no g Gaf in arabic. If it is in geem it does not mean anything. Backup please backup!!!!!!!!!!!






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Old Mar 1st, 2002, 08:32 AM   #17
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This is what i found on the net about mangalsutra

Mangalasutra or thread of good will is a necklace worn specifically by married women as a symbol of their marriage.

Initially it was a thread that a bride and groom tied on each other signifying their union in good will. Now, the groom ties it around his bride's neck to indicate that he receives her from her father (see Vivaha).

The most common Mangalasutra is made of two strings of small black beads with a pendant, usually of gold. The black beads are believed to act as protection against evil (see Nazar Utarna). Married women wear this to protect their marriage and the life of their husband. In southern India, the Mangalasutra is called 'tali'. It is a small gold ornament, strung on a cotton cord or a gold chain.

Traditionally, a married woman never removed her mangalasutra. If she became a widow, it was cut off. Nowadays however, this custom is not strictly applied, and not all married women wear a mangalasutra.

and do pay attn to this part

Initially it was a thread that a bride and groom tied on each other signifying their union in good will. Now, the groom ties it around his bride's neck to indicate that he receives her from her father (see Vivaha).

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Old Mar 1st, 2002, 08:41 AM   #18
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What does Mangal mean? Theres this phrase, 'sub kushal mangal hai'. Is this the same mangal?






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Old Mar 1st, 2002, 08:50 AM   #19
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Akif, quit talking in your ancient Sinskarit lingo -- we already know that you are old like a ghost, you don't have to prove it to us, ok?






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Old Mar 1st, 2002, 09:21 AM   #20
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Quote:
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What does Mangal mean? Theres this phrase, 'sub kushal mangal hai'. Is this the same mangal?
MANGAL = KHAIRYAT

I think it is the same Mangal

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