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      What is the background history of Pakistani army music bands? It seems heavily influenced by the Scottish Celtic music.
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      Most of traditions of pakistan army must be similar to the indian army....and both armies combined were British Indian Army...

      British army band must be influenced by scottish music..hence bagpipes in pakistan army band

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      The Indian army bands, apart from national festive occasion are also used in wedding ceremony of children of army officers here

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      Quote Originally Posted by hareem01 View Post
      What is the background history of Pakistani army music bands? It seems heavily influenced by the Scottish Celtic music.
      They now mostly used tunes of songs sung during 1965 war, as far as I remember. The most famous one 'Allah o Akbar... waqt shahadat hai aya. originally sung by Shokat Ali

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      Quote Originally Posted by the kaur View Post
      The Indian army bands, apart from national festive occasion are also used in wedding ceremony of children of army officers here
      Mostly in UP

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      I wasn't talking about the songs but the instruments.
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      Then I would go with ninja's version.

      BTW, military in Pakistan have been influenced by religious people like Zia. How they continued with all these instruments then?

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      Quote Originally Posted by muqawwee123 View Post
      Mostly in UP
      Mostly in Punjab not in UP, majority of top officers in the Indian Army are from Punjab, Haryana and Himachal, with sikhs alome have nearly 15 percent of cadre, Millitary, water and land are birth right of jats

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      Former British Empire

      The GHB has also been adopted by many countries that were formerly part of the British Empire, despite their lack of a Scottish or Irish population. These countries include India, Pakistan and Nepal.

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      The skirl of bagpipes may conjure up the chilly moors of Scotland, but a British colonial legacy means the unique sound is echoed on Pakistan's dusty Punjab plains.
      Not only do Pakistanis play the instruments, they manufacture them and claim to export more than any country except Scotland.
      "Pakistan is the second country after Scotland which exports bagpipes," said Farooq Ahmad, owner of the Imperial Bagpipe Manufacturing Company, who says he ships abroad up to 6,000 ebony and rosewood bagpipes a year.


      Bagpipes make corner of Pakistan forever Scotland - Music - Arts & Entertainment - The Independent
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      Quote Originally Posted by hareem01 View Post
      What is the background history of Pakistani army music bands? It seems heavily influenced by the Scottish Celtic music.
      It originally started when Scottish troops in the British Army and Pashtun Troops in the British Indian army realised that what they had in common was being a mountain people with a dislike of the English but serving under them anyway.

      It started a bond between the Scottish and Pashtun troops that manifested itself in the Pashtun troops taking on some of the customs of the Scottish troops.
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      ^^interesting.
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      Also people think Bagpipes are unique to Scotland.

      Actually they originate from Mesopotamia and were widely used in armies from ancient times. Along with fifes this martial music has been used much earlier than the Scotts. The Scotts in India and Pakistan played a major role in securing some of the British armies greatest victories but by no means does it mean that Bagpipes were not in use before that time.

      Pipes were in use across many cultures and theres a possibility that the Tribal North West Frontier had heard them before many times thanks to Steppe Invaders.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Faris Udeen View Post
      Pipes were in use across many cultures and theres a possibility that the Tribal North West Frontier had heard them before many times thanks to Steppe Invaders.
      The scottish influence is the more likely explanation because
      1) Pakistani bagpipe bands have always worn tradiition scottish tartan patterns while playing, and often kilts too.
      2) If there was a local bagpipe tradition in the area before, then local bagpipe songs would have existed. The Pakistan bagpipe bands play Scottish songs instead.
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      So finally pashtoons have at least one community as friend

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      Quote Originally Posted by mAd_ScIeNtIsT View Post
      The scottish influence is the more likely explanation because
      1) Pakistani bagpipe bands have always worn tradiition scottish tartan patterns while playing, and often kilts too.
      2) If there was a local bagpipe tradition in the area before, then local bagpipe songs would have existed. The Pakistan bagpipe bands play Scottish songs instead.
      Well where bag pipes are concerned you do realise there are more than one type od design, yes the scotts influenced the modern Pakistani army bands but nevetheless there were pipes in the region long before that and the "Laz" is a type of ancient near eastern design as is the "gaida" much older than the scottish pipes.

      In fact there were even bagpipes in South India I think they are reffered to as Sruthi.

      I think they were even prevalent in medieval punjab as the Mashak.

      Also the different types of dirges are testament to this fact. I note that Pakistani bagpipes tend to produce a more shrill higher note than Scottish pipes and while the majority of marching tunes might be like the scottish type most tribal regions had thier own traditional tunes the sad thing is these have not survived as much.
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