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Nov 12th, 2005, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LastOfTheDinosaurs
It is interesting! Do Rajputs and Jats ethnicities overlap? Which is considered more ancient ethnicity? Moreover, the ethno-term "Mand" can also be found amongst Pashtuns e.g. Mandukhel and Madanar, a Yousafzai subclan...
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There is no difference among Jats and Rajputs. Jats that served under brahmins were elevated to the status of Rajputs in the 10th century on Mount Abu. They were created to fight the islamic invasions.
Rajputs do not exist before the 10th century.
Also, several Jat and Rajput clans overlap. For example, Bhatti can be both rajput and Jat.
Also, gujjars are also from the same sycthian ethnicity as Jats and Rajputs. They also have common overlapping subclans.
Also, some dalits have the same subclan names as Jats,Rajputs, Gujjars. Some of these may be of name copying. Some of them may be jats,gujjars,rajputs who have lost status and become dalits.
For example, Chamars are a caste that used to work with leather. Becuase they worked with leather (dead cows) they became dalits. Chamars form close to 30% of Indian Punjab, yet they are almost unknown in Pakistan Punjab. This is because in Pakistan Punjab, people who worked with leather did not lose caste status and remained Jats,Gujjars,,Rajputs etc etc
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Nov 12th, 2005, 08:48 PM
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Kashmiri, Granddaughter of Allama Iqbal............. 
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Nov 16th, 2005, 03:00 PM
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Nov 17th, 2005, 05:07 AM
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Nov 18th, 2005, 08:57 AM
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Kashmiri, Granddaughter of Allama Iqbal............. |
That's a joke, right?
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Nov 23rd, 2005, 07:06 PM
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confused about what the question is really asking..but anyways, i m punjabi, sunni syed 
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Nov 24th, 2005, 04:45 AM
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I'm french so i have no zaat basically  .......
you can kill those who tell the truth
but you can't kill the truth
-means "violence serves lies"-
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Nov 24th, 2005, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Pagli~
confused about what the question is really asking..but anyways, i m punjabi, sunni syed |
who ur ancenstors were from ur father's side. Their last name tends to define ur background.
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Nov 24th, 2005, 11:18 AM
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I'm french so i have no zaat basically ....... |
I am sure you have one!
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Nov 25th, 2005, 09:39 AM
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who ur ancenstors were from ur father's side. Their last name tends to define ur background.
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Our last name has been naqvi and now we use shah instead but its really the same thing. so what does my last name tell about my background
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Nov 25th, 2005, 01:00 PM
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naqvi
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Nov 25th, 2005, 02:36 PM
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I'm french so i have no zaat basically ....... |
Hey, if u don't mind me asking...r u French on both sides? Bcos i've noticed ur Urdu is very good 
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Nov 26th, 2005, 07:28 AM
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my zaat was shah originally, though i've dropped it now.
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Nov 26th, 2005, 12:29 PM
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naqvi
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hey naqli...i m naqli tooo
i mean naqVi...hehe
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Nov 26th, 2005, 12:30 PM
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my zaat was shah originally, though i've dropped it now.
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can u drop ur zaat???
really?? hey then i m dropping mine too
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Nov 26th, 2005, 02:53 PM
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wat exactly is zaat? it just seems pretty paindu and ignorant to me.. 
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Nov 29th, 2005, 05:05 PM
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A wise man once said:
Wuza main tum ho Nasara, tou tamaddun main hanud [fits Pakis perfectly these days]
Ye Musalman hain, jinhain dekh kay sharmain Yahud
Yun tou Syed bhi ho, Mirza bhi ho, Afghan bhi ho
Tum sabhi kuch ho batao tou Musalmaan bhi ho?
And...
Aik hi hoon muslim haram ki paasbaani kay liyain
Neel kay sahil say lay kar tabkhak-e-Kashgar...
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Nov 29th, 2005, 05:14 PM
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my zaat is mughal......though i wanna change it to some other zaat name.....
guys....suggest some zaat names....
Patta patta boota boota haal hamaara jaane hai
Jaane na jaane gul he na jaane, baagh to saara jaane hai
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Nov 29th, 2005, 05:45 PM
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The next time an Auntie asks me this type of question I am going to say I am Japanese and Ugandan mix. Phir dekhaingay.
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Nov 29th, 2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FrozenFire
my zaat is mughal......though i wanna change it to some other zaat name.....
guys....suggest some zaat names....
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You can change your zaat to just Ghal..or Ghul for those who know what I mean...
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