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Old Oct 28th, 2009, 03:30 PM   #141 (permalink)  
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This is the biggest problem
Like our national language our culture is a mixture of our neighbours' culture At the time of the Moguls the persian/central asian culture dominated and now the Indians dominate it.There is so much similarity in culture between the people of India and Pakistan that it is frightening
Unless we think our selves as muslims first and Pakistanis second we will always suffer from this identity crisis regarding our culture.If we do that we can take those things of all the cultures which are permisable in Islam and form our own.But again that will lean more towards the Arabs and Persians than the Indians,which is great cuz the grts threat to Islam comes from the East not the West.No matter what Jinnah thought of it at the time of its creation Pakistan is a Ideological state based on Islam if we dont stick to it rigidly it will mean the end of pakistan as a indepentent state.
Please listen to more arabic and Irani music first. Here is a good muslim song.

Enta Aref Leih - Google Videos#

Damn it, she is not wearing a hijab!






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Old Oct 28th, 2009, 03:33 PM   #142 (permalink)  
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Please listen to more arabic and Irani music first. Here is a good muslim song.

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Damn it, she is not wearing a hijab!
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Old Oct 28th, 2009, 03:35 PM   #143 (permalink)  
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Look indeed indian culture has invaded Pakistan but hey why are we worried???!!

Best Indian Producers of music and film industry are MUSLIMS.
Best Indian Songwriters are MUSLIM.
Best Indian music composers are MUSLIMS.
Best Indian actors are MUSLIM.
Best Indian lyricists are MUSLIMS.
Best Indian films or music made till day is of MUSLIMS.
Best Indian classical masters of music are MUSLIMS.

lolz we should not cry THEY should. Its a nightmare for extremist fundamentalist hindus but fact we cannot deny.






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Old Oct 28th, 2009, 04:30 PM   #144 (permalink)  
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How different are Pakistani and Indian cultures? I guess not much, considering how 'average' people live, work and entertain themselves in both countries.






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Old Oct 28th, 2009, 07:54 PM   #145 (permalink)  
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What Indian and Pakistani culture?

Its western culture which is taking all over.

Using Bollywood as an example, its more western than eastern nowadays thats for sure.






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Old Nov 2nd, 2009, 03:23 AM   #146 (permalink)  
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yeah, it is invading. boo, run!






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Old Nov 4th, 2009, 01:49 PM   #147 (permalink)  
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Look indeed indian culture has invaded Pakistan but hey why are we worried???!!

Best Indian Producers of music and film industry are MUSLIMS.
Best Indian Songwriters are MUSLIM.
Best Indian music composers are MUSLIMS.
Best Indian actors are MUSLIM.
Best Indian lyricists are MUSLIMS.
Best Indian films or music made till day is of MUSLIMS.
Best Indian classical masters of music are MUSLIMS.

lolz we should not cry THEY should. Its a nightmare for extremist fundamentalist hindus but fact we cannot deny.
Well, you are quite off the mark here...

Best Indian Producers
- Yash Raj films, UTV, Dharma Productions etc.
Best Indian Songwriters are MUSLIM.
- Gulzar is a sikh, Prasoon Joshi is Hindu
Best Indian music composers are MUSLIMS.
- Shankar, Ehsan & Loy
Best Indian actors are MUSLIM.
- Amitabh Bachchan is a Hindu
Best Indian lyricists are MUSLIMS.
- Whats the difference between lyricist & song writer ?
Best Indian films or music made till day is of MUSLIMS.
- Guru Dutt, Bimal Roy, Subhash Ghai, Yash Raj etc are all Hindus
Best Indian classical masters of music are MUSLIMS.
- Bhimsen Joshi, Pandit Jasraj, Ravi Shankar are all Hindus

This was a quick rebuttal to your off base post. End of the day, they are all Indians

So yeah, run for cover....we will take over your culture







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Old Nov 5th, 2009, 04:33 AM   #148 (permalink)  
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Oy pappe, Ehsan is Muslim. i actually like their trio. each is from different religion and region but still working together. so Indian!






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Is there something called Pak culture?There is nothing like that.Its the new form of `indian culture' only.







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Old Nov 9th, 2009, 02:48 PM   #150 (permalink)  
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Oy pappe, Ehsan is Muslim. i actually like their trio. each is from different religion and region but still working together. so Indian!
Exactly !! That was my point - its a Hindu/Muslim/Christian music director trio that rules the roost in Bollywood.

However, on second thoughts I should have mentioned Pritam since he is the most successful music director of Bollywood.






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Old Nov 9th, 2009, 03:27 PM   #151 (permalink)  
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I like the enthusiasm of some guys here... they would dig real deep just to make some outrageous comments.

Good luck tiding up then.







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Old Nov 9th, 2009, 04:32 PM   #152 (permalink)  
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Actually this debate is interesting. And we do need to sit and think about Pakistani culture, having deep roots both in patriotism and religion. Here I don't mean the religion that unfortunately for majority of Pakistani Muslims become now i.e. only about praying, fighting, protesting and burning their own shops over some nonsensical cartoons/provocations etc.

We have forgotten the real teachings of Islam: Love and respect for each other, generosity, cleanliness, honesty in every walk of life, hardworking, getting knowledge, thanking Almighty always for what He has given us, keeping your country/neighborhood first and so on and on..

Thread is too long to be read in one sitting. May be someone can summarize some good ideas about how we can polish our culture and give it the due respect that it deserves. A culture that is based on Iqbal's dream is the culture that others will copy from us!

P.S. Lets just ignore what some indians are spitting on this thread and concentrate on our task..







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Old Nov 13th, 2009, 05:47 PM   #153 (permalink)  
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There is no such thing as Indian culture or Pakistani culture.

Pakistan and India are home to many different cultures, not just one pan-Indian or pan-Pakistani culture.

Punjabi and Urdudan/Hindi culture is shared by both countries, always was and always will be whereas there's other cultures such as Tamil and Pashtun etc. which the two countries do not have in common.







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