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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:57 PM   #61 (permalink)
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It is hypocrisy to have ones own eyes red with anger when someone looks at one's own sister, mother, daughter or wife but when ones is looking at someones else's wife, daughter, mother or sister "THE SAME" eyes are full of thirst of lust
hahaha!...'thirst of lust'...hehe..where do u guyz come up with this stuff?...







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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 03:01 PM   #62 (permalink)
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No offence taken but reading about something and generalising that it is part of a culture just ain't fair. Its unfortunate but lets face it, its all over world now. Including in all corners of Pakistan.
First bacha bazi is not only biy dancing its more than that.
It common in all cities in Pakistan.







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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 03:18 PM   #63 (permalink)
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As a pathan women i have grown up seeing my father treat my mother with alot of love and respect, i am now married 2 a lovely pathan guy who also treats me very well...we have grown up with punjabis 2 and they seem 2 be very nice people i have alot of punjabi neighbours who are happily married and love they husbands for im sure they are treating them with due respect 2.
It does not matter if you are pathan or punjabi, your culture or your mother tongue is different, just coz uv seen a pathan women not being treated well does not mean all pathans are the same, and same gos 4 punjabis. You have good people in both cultures and im sure every1 is old enough 2 no that.
Doing parda is not a bad thing, i, my mum or my sisters do not do parda and neither have our men told us2. im sure they would like it but they have not forced us2 do so.We have punjabi women doing parda does that mean they husbands r not treating them well???
Not all five fingers are the same in the same way not all pathans are bad. i respect both cultures and you can not point fingers at them wether its punjabi or pathan.plz






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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 04:16 PM   #64 (permalink)
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So immature.
atleast i dont pretend to be all knowing then end up stereotyping... off the record ur not important i was talking about stalker







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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 04:21 PM   #65 (permalink)
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atleast i dont pretend to be all knowing then end up stereotyping
This is your own perception of me being knowledgeable, I have never claimed this.
You are trying to manipulate me by using my personal information (in my blogs about homeschooling) against me but it's not going to work......you baby hater.

I still stand to what I said.....look and read, bro STP himself admitted that pakthuns who commit this crime don't hide it from others.







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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 04:27 PM   #66 (permalink)
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This is your own perception of me being knowledgeable, I have never claimed this.
You are trying to manipulate me by using my personal information (in my blogs about homeschooling) against me but it's not going to work......you baby hater.

I still stand to what I said.....look and read, bro STP himself admitted that pakthuns who commit this crime don't hide it from others.
excuse me maybe i wasnt clear about it UR NOT IMPORTANT i wasnt talking about you.his reply to that stalker guy i liked so shuuu.ur blogs i dont even care about ur posts. baby hater yeah so perdictable of you.calling names is ur forte aint it?






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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 04:35 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Let us forgive and forget each other's mistakes for the love of Allah (swt)

@Topic. The only thing which we can do for the bad cases in a culture is to pray for them, practice "ourselves" what we think is morally right and be thankful to Allah (s.w.t) for keeping us away from all dirt.

We don't have a right to criticize anyone because if we were able to do anything good in life it was because of Allah's blessings upon us and not our "own quality", but our choices of bad actions were actually our own mistakes.







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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 04:39 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Let us forgive and forget each other's mistakes for the love of Allah (swt)

@Topic. The only thing which we can do for the bad cases in a culture is to pray for them, practice "ourselves" what we think is morally right and be thankful to Allah (s.w.t) for keeping us away from all dirt.

We don't have a right to criticize anyone because if we were able to do anything good in life it was because of Allah's blessings and not our "own quality"
yeah ur rite brother i culd nt agree with you less






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:01 PM   #69 (permalink)
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excuse me maybe i wasnt clear about it UR NOT IMPORTANT i wasnt talking about you.his reply to that stalker guy i liked so shuuu.ur blogs i dont even care about ur posts. baby hater yeah so perdictable of you.calling names is ur forte aint it?
I didn't know that you were thanking s-mk for ranting against someone else.






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:07 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Only asking cos i saw come comments on the recent thread "Some girls...".

It gives the impression that Punjabi men treat their ladies better than Pathan. I don't think thats necessarily true. Add your twopence worth here!!!

Yes pathan men do not treat their wives/daughters better than Punjabis. I have seen a few cases. Infact an anty's pathan husband beats the crap out of his daughters. The daughters are aged 14,16 and 18. All he does is sleep 24/7. He does not socialise with anyone. He hardly talks to his wife. He once threw his daughter down the stairs. He refers to his duaghters as b****h. Yeh hotay hain hamare Pathan uncles Dimagh nahin unke pass. Bhool ke agar un ki wife kisi friend ke ghar chali jayain us din to toofan ata hai







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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:12 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I personally don't know any pathan....back in Pakistan used to see pathans with their women wrapped up in chadars.

Once I saw 3 women from Swat with a man in Rawalpindi, the married woman was showing her face but the others were hiding their faces in their chadar.....they were beautiful, I wanted to see their complete face but couldn't.

Here in UK I know a pathan family and they are all ultra modern.






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:15 PM   #72 (permalink)
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ok so y is every1 stereotyping ppl???

i think woman beaters r everywhere whether punjabi or pathan or pakistani or americans so y pathans??

there r alot of cases of domestic violence eveywhere not only in pakistan and not only in pathan families or punjabi families

domestic violence is everywhere so y generalizing???









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^I don't think she's generalizing......this thread is about pathans so she just told what she saw in a pathan family.

You will get similar stories about punjabis or sindhis or Americans.






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:21 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Yes pathan men do not treat their wives/daughters better than Punjabis. I have seen a few cases. Infact an anty's pathan husband beats the crap out of his daughters. The daughters are aged 14,16 and 18. All he does is sleep 24/7. He does not socialise with anyone. He hardly talks to his wife. He once threw his daughter down the stairs. He refers to his duaghters as b****h. Yeh hotay hain hamare Pathan uncles Dimagh nahin unke pass. Bhool ke agar un ki wife kisi friend ke ghar chali jayain us din to toofan ata hai
Funny Im a pakhtoon, we socialise with all muslims including some non muslims yet I know this panjabi guy who has divorced his wife and left her with their kids to nothing.






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:24 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Oh and I heard this Panjabi guy who was one of my cousin's neighbour back home splashed hot oil on his wife's face cause he thought she was cheating.

Does this mean that panjabi's treat their women worse?






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:26 PM   #76 (permalink)
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^I don't think she's generalizing......this thread is about pathans so she just told what she saw in a pathan family.

You will get similar stories about punjabis or sindhis or Americans.


yeah so every1 will start telling stories pathans will tell stories how awful punjabis r and punjabis will say how bad pathans r so do u see it going anywhere????

i can tell wat i have seen in pathans and also punjabi and any other ppl

so wat the point is???

it is personal how sum1 treats a woman not punjabi or pathan or watever






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:27 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Oh and yeah, this panjabi guy who just turned tablieghy in Hamilton started drowing him beared and how his wife completly walks completly covered. You can only see her eyes.

Does this mean that panjabi's treat their women worse?






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Create another thread for punjabis then.






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Most of the Punjabis I have come across are nice people. A pathan friend gets beaten up. Her father won't even let her go to uni. He's like parh ker kia karna hai He's a band dimagh insan






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:32 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Oh and I heard this Panjabi guy who was one of my cousin's neighbour back home splashed hot oil on his wife's face cause he thought she was cheating.

Does this mean that panjabi's treat their women worse?


No they don't maybe he was Pathan. Marhaa sunnay main ghalti howi hogi






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^So the pathaans that you know equates to you pajnaji freidns that you come across in numbers?






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50% of american men r pedophiles now wat u say bout that peeps

i hear that everyday so it shud be true






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50% of american men r pedophiles now wat u say bout that peeps

i hear that everyday so it shud be true
Any reference for it?






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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:39 PM   #84 (permalink)
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ok seriously, this discussion isn't going to go anywhere. it's topics like these that you hear things like pakhtoon people don't like punjabi people, or that punjabi people are teh scum of the earth. stop it! men are men. doesn't matter which ethnicity or nationality they are. both pakhtoon culture and the punjabi cultures have great values in them, and both have other values that either of the culture will not understand. and both cultures can be dissuaded and looked upon as dumb due to uneducation.

so stop it. you're going to come up with stories that say that punjabi men beat their women. well a punjabi is going to come up and show you how pakhtoon men are bad. include sindhis, balochis, kashmiri men in this, and the thread will keep on getting longer. in the end, it all boils down to how many horrific stories you can remember. but is that going to get us anywhere? is it going to make us better pakistan, muslims, human beings? is it going to fix the rifts between our country? i think not. so i really don't see point of this discussion.







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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 12:45 PM   #85 (permalink)
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we want more arguments

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