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Aug 10th, 2008, 05:01 PM
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Where is Urdu?
The 20 most spoken languages in the world:
Mandarin 873 million, Hindi 450 million, English 341 million, Spanish 320 million, Arabic 250 million, Portuguese 177.5 million, Bengali 171 million, Russian 170 million, Japanese 122 million, German 100 million, Punjabi 88 million, French 79,572,000, Wu 77.2 million, Javanese 75. 5 million, Korean 74 million, Vietnamese 67.4 million, Marathi 68 million, Telugu 69.7 million, Tamil 66 million, Italian 61.5 million.
Sideswipe: Monday - 11 Aug 2008 - Sideswipe - New Zealand Herald
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Aug 10th, 2008, 06:36 PM
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Yes, that is true.
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Aug 10th, 2008, 07:39 PM
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oh wow, that sucks! URGH actually that makes me cringe....cuz i HATE when people just assume all of south asia is just hindi speaking or indians... 
in fact...i wrote a big essay of an email to the Food Network Channel and told them to stop reffering as food with paprika in it as INDIAN food, I was like Hellloooooooooo, there are around 12 countires in South Asia, the main desi or close to "indians" being Indians themselves, pakistani's, bengali's & Sri lankens...and THEY ALL USE PAPRIKA! I mean you know....garam masala, red chilli powder etc....
so I would say yes it is considered the same but I dont think thats how it should me IMO
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Aug 10th, 2008, 10:55 PM
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^ well all of you (Pakistan, BD, Sri Lanka) came from India and Indian culture - so what is wrong referring to the cuisine as Indian? Not enough time and separate development has occurred for Pakistan and BD to have or be known markedly differenr. Sri Lanka I think is different enough in some respects but they do have a lot of commonality with Bengali, keralite and Tamil cultures and cuisines.
In fact there are Pak and BD restarants that advertise as Indian cuisine to get customers in
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Aug 10th, 2008, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VetriVelan
Not enough time and separate development has occurred for Pakistan and BD to have or be known markedly differenr. Sri Lanka I think is different enough in some respects but they do have a lot of commonality with Bengali, keralite and Tamil cultures and cuisines.
In fact there are Pak and BD restarants that advertise as Indian cuisine to get customers in
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right...that indian advertising thing in mu opinion is bull****, i mean if you dont belive in your own country, why should anyone else?
and its not about Pk development...you know the GDP system...?
India is 126 while PK is 128, only 2 places down....so the indian economy and Pk econmy arent much different you get me? its all sterotypes
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Aug 10th, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Maria416
right...that indian advertising thing in mu opinion is bull****, i mean if you dont belive in your own country, why should anyone else?
and its not about Pk development...you know the GDP system...?
India is 126 while PK is 128, only 2 places down....so the indian economy and Pk econmy arent much different you get me? its all sterotypes
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Got a link to that? GDP system? sorry, I am illiterate
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Aug 13th, 2008, 08:04 AM
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GDP in layman's terms is the market value of all goods and services produced by a country.
The list that you need to look at is this:
List of countries by GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That tells you why the Indian and Pakistani economies cannot be compared. The list that you (Maria) provided takes a country's GDP and divides it by its population. So obviously you have India (and Pakistan) languishing in such a list. If you take a close look China also comes up only at 99. But in absolute terms China's economy is second only to the U.S.
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Aug 13th, 2008, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ptolemy
GDP in layman's terms is the market value of all goods and services produced by a country.
The list that you need to look at is this:
List of countries by GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That tells you why the Indian and Pakistani economies cannot be compared. The list that you (Maria) provided takes a country's GDP and divides it by its population. So obviously you have India (and Pakistan) languishing in such a list. If you take a close look China also comes up only at 99. But in absolute terms China's economy is second only to the U.S. |
Oh your right, I guess I qucily wiki'd it, anyways Thanks
but PK is above all the bigger countires and not too far, #26 is actually great considering Oakistan is 1/3 of India
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Aug 14th, 2008, 09:47 AM
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I LOATHE IT WHEN PEOPLE CANT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN HINDI AND URDU ,OUR (URDU)LITERATURE IS LAVISHLY RICH AND SOPHISTICATED ITS THE LANGUAGE OF POETS .
HINDI ON THE OTHER HAND EVEN WITH ALL ITS SIMILARITIES IS A DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH ALLTOGETHER LOL
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Aug 14th, 2008, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by saregamapa
Where is Urdu?
The 20 most spoken languages in the world:
Mandarin 873 million, Hindi 450 million, English 341 million, Spanish 320 million, Arabic 250 million, Portuguese 177.5 million, Bengali 171 million, Russian 170 million, Japanese 122 million, German 100 million, Punjabi 88 million, French 79,572,000, Wu 77.2 million, Javanese 75. 5 million, Korean 74 million, Vietnamese 67.4 million, Marathi 68 million, Telugu 69.7 million, Tamil 66 million, Italian 61.5 million.
Sideswipe: Monday - 11 Aug 2008 - Sideswipe - New Zealand Herald |
 ....URDU >560-600 million......estimated 160 million Pakistani's atleast 80% know Urdu.....add to that all those who enjoy Bollywood Movies.....
More than Half of India if not more knows Bollywood Urdu...
580 million.......
Expats (Urdu Speeaking) from Sub Continent..........20 million
All Arabs in the Holy Cities know Urdu........3-5 million
All of GupShup...........0.3 million.........
Believe it or Not URDU may be second most spoken language on Earth...........
Correction all this is from Sina gazzette..........but seems plausible! 
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koi aur mera Khudaa naheen!.......
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Aug 14th, 2008, 10:36 AM
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You can hardly call Bollywood movies as Urdu movies. There may be a few phrases or song lyrics in Urdu, but the overwhelming in use language is undoubtedly Hindi. In many cases it is sanskritised hindi. If you actually show a pakistani drama to a hindi speaking person he will understand what is going on but he is sure to miss the nuances. When you refer to Urdu speaking populace you should refrain yourself to those who consider Urdu their primary language.
In India an approximate 60 Million people use Urdu as their 1st language.
List of Indian languages by number of native speakers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I have no idea how you landed up with the figure of 100 mil expat people from the only the gulf who speak urdu. I am sure you must be having some data to back up your claims which you would be willing to share with us.
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Aug 14th, 2008, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ptolemy
You can hardly call Bollywood movies as Urdu movies. There may be a few phrases or song lyrics in Urdu, but the overwhelming in use language is undoubtedly Hindi. In many cases it is sanskritised hindi. If you actually show a pakistani drama to a hindi speaking person he will understand what is going on but he is sure to miss the nuances. When you refer to Urdu speaking populace you should refrain yourself to those who consider Urdu their primary language.
In India an approximate 60 Million people use Urdu as their 1st language.
List of Indian languages by number of native speakers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I have no idea how you landed up with the figure of 100 mil expat people from the only the gulf who speak urdu. I am sure you must be having some data to back up your claims which you would be willing to share with us. |
Anyone who left the subcontinent of Indo/Pak/Bangladesh and went anywhere on Earth is being counted as Expatriot....not just those who went to Mid East alone....Right?
Source as I posted is ...Sina Gazzette....
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Aug 22nd, 2008, 04:56 PM
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they both sound like the same but have different wordz and meaningz
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Aug 22nd, 2008, 10:08 PM
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Isnt real Hindi different to Hindi that is in movies. i have seen many people speaking PURE HINDI and that is totally different and hard to understand. People of Fiji, also speak HINDI but their is different as well.
so one cant say that Urdu is dialect of Hindi.
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