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Nov 10th, 2008, 05:54 AM
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Im thinking of reading this book!
Written by a pakistani - Ibn Warraq I know it is critical of Islam. question is should i read it or not?
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Nov 10th, 2008, 06:08 AM
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Question is that you find it interesting or not. If it is a mindless rant then find something else... if it is well written and interesting then read and tell us about it here 
Ik fursat-e-gunah mili wo bhi chaar din
dekhey hian hum ney hosley, parwardigar ke !
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Nov 10th, 2008, 08:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Code_Red
Question is that you find it interesting or not. If it is a mindless rant then find something else... if it is well written and interesting then read and tell us about it here
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abb yeh to perh ker he pata chalay ga k either its a mindless rant or a constructive one. 
"There are two rules for ultimate success in life: #1. Never tell everything you know." ;)
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Nov 10th, 2008, 08:52 AM
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^^ i agree .. aur waisey bhi ..you should read it ..cos it will give you information on what sort of people there in the world ..and by reading this you will have infrmation and be able to refute people like these .. and if you dont even know what these people think then you cant prepare yourself for answers for these sorta people ..
"My dear heart never think you are better than others. Listen to their sorrows with compassion. If you want peace, don't harbour bad thoughts do not gossip and don't teach what you do not know." [Maulana Rumi]
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Nov 10th, 2008, 09:02 AM
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NO!
false logic made up facts.
Unless you are student of such a subject , I wont recommend it.
This is your life, Now!! Not far future and certainly not the past.
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Nov 10th, 2008, 09:05 AM
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Firm Believer in Islam !!
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yeh .. jimmy i agree with you there too . cos if you dont have a deep knowledge in to Islam .and you arent familiar with the Islamic laws and etc ... by reading this book ..IF IT CONTRADICTS islam ... then its a +50% chance that a person can be mislead ....
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Nov 10th, 2008, 11:13 AM
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thats exactly it...not knowing about ones religion and if someone gives convincing arguments might jeopodize ones faith!
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Nov 10th, 2008, 11:48 AM
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So... you shouldn't educate yourself if it might challenge your ideals? What?
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Nov 10th, 2008, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STONECOLD
thats exactly it...not knowing about ones religion and if someone gives convincing arguments might jeopodize ones faith!
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then you can do more research and come back to faith - even stronger
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Nov 10th, 2008, 12:48 PM
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It is said if your Mother is not a Muslim..............it will be hard for you to be one!
read all the books you want.......................atleast that is what the Jews think.............they will not let someone convert to Judaism if their Mother was not Jewish!
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Nov 10th, 2008, 01:16 PM
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hey obama I was raised with out a mother, so I can only be an atheist??
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Nov 10th, 2008, 03:24 PM
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hey obama I was raised with out a mother, so I can only be an atheist??
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You must have had a person who you relate to as Mom?
so what made you pick your religion?
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Nov 10th, 2008, 03:28 PM
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It is one thing to read the book as pure information and entertainment, but if it changes the way you think about your religion then obviously you have taken it to the next level. I would like to read the book and close it and forget about it. Our Iman needs to be strong enough to disallow negative influences to infiltrate.
Happiness often sneaks in through a door you didn't know you left open...
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Nov 10th, 2008, 03:33 PM
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Firm Believer in Islam !!
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^^ exactly what am trying to say ..
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Nov 10th, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyKimble
Unless you are student of such a subject , I wont recommend it.
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Ditto
"Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe."~Lex Luthor
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Nov 10th, 2008, 03:43 PM
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Billu Barber
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dont read it man, why support nonsense? you know your on the right path so why read kafir's words?
"Let us make wudu and use our Islamic etiquettes to stay clean and in good health inshallah - that's the Muslim vaccine."
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Nov 10th, 2008, 03:46 PM
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If you are going to read this book, you should probably check out Why I am not a Christian also by Bertrand Russell who inspired this Ibn warrq person. BTW I think knowledge is always good but this Ibn Waraq (literally means son of the page) is a fake name. There is a wide scale speculation that this book is not written by a muslim or a former muslim who left faith and wrote a sincere account of his experience as Russell did with Christinanity, but rather is a propeganda device with zionist roots. Read it, but just do a little background. I am including a link to the Essay titled Why I am not a Christian. Why I Am Not A Christian, by Bertrand Russell
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Nov 10th, 2008, 04:22 PM
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he must be an ibn jerQ. 
HTD/S11: To fool your enemies, you must first fool your allies.
ARY: baighairton ka badshah
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Nov 10th, 2008, 10:55 PM
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well a possible outcome is that you actually come back with a stronger imaan, depends on you.
Your friendly neighbourhood fraudiya loafer luccha lufanga awara ayaash aubaash ghunda badmaash man
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Nov 11th, 2008, 03:40 AM
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indeed i am swaying from "read it, it will make your faith stronger" to "dont read it, its just fitnaa".....
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