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Jun 18th, 2009, 04:50 AM
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I meat with Pathan Friends in Karachi , Steel Town , whose father was working in Steel Mills of pakistan and they had settled in Steel Town after migration from Kohat NWFP.
They were Very haltingly speaking in Pashto and prefered speaking URDU and one of my friend's brother told that he understand Pushto , but can speak Pushto very hardly.
I thought your Children will never speak Pushto as You the Parants wou'nt know/practice it.
Is this the Case with other languages too.?
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Jun 18th, 2009, 07:11 AM
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they might dont speak as a mother tongue
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Jun 23rd, 2009, 03:42 PM
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Pashtuns stick to their langauge and culture as lmg as they remain in their own areas. Outside their native area, when settled, forget their pashto within 2nd generation.
i think disloyalty to mother tongue is done only by pashtuns bcoz i have observed that punjabis settled in our area long time ago, still speak punjabi in their homes.
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Jun 23rd, 2009, 03:45 PM
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Mostly modern and educated pashtun families settled outside pakhtunkhwa abonden their mother tongue perhaps because they feel shame in being identified as pashtuns who are usually chokidaars, mazdoors and labourers.
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Jun 24th, 2009, 10:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marwati
Mostly modern and educated pashtun families settled outside pakhtunkhwa abonden their mother tongue perhaps because they feel shame in being identified as pashtuns who are usually chokidaars, mazdoors and labourers.
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Why do they abodon their selves to speak in Pushto , there may be many reasons ? , But if some one have this mantelity that , doing Hardwork , Even chokidari , Mazdoori etc is some thing to be offended for could not appriciated.
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Jun 25th, 2009, 07:01 AM
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Mr.engrashmi, are you a Pashtun?
If yes, then its strange that you are complaining of Pashtun's disloyalty towards their langauge while you have already take a step ahead by repeatively using the improper word "Pathan" instead of "Pashtun".
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Jun 25th, 2009, 09:47 PM
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These days most Indians only speak English at home in India. And watch Bollywood.. So it's sort of like Bonglish...English in a sing song sorta way.
It's very entertaining 
Happiness often sneaks in through a door you didn't know you left open...
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Jun 26th, 2009, 06:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marwati
Pashtuns stick to their langauge and culture as lmg as they remain in their own areas. Outside their native area, when settled, forget their pashto within 2nd generation.
i think disloyalty to mother tongue is done only by pashtuns bcoz i have observed that punjabis settled in our area long time ago, still speak punjabi in their homes.
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Don't agree - My siblings and I are 2nd generation pashtoons living in UK and we speak pakhto fluently. I have 2nd generation friends whose young kids also speak pakhto fluently.
The same can be said of 2nd and 3rd generation punjabis who I know, we all make a conscious effort to keep the language going.
One must make a mark in this world, if I am remembered for anything, let it be cheese and crackers...
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Jun 26th, 2009, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RupayHalwa
Don't agree - My siblings and I are 2nd generation pashtoons living in UK and we speak pakhto fluently. I have 2nd generation friends whose young kids also speak pakhto fluently.
The same can be said of 2nd and 3rd generation punjabis who I know, we all make a conscious effort to keep the language going.
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wrora, i can say that u r fluent in pashto bcoz u have got gifted pashtun parents
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Jun 26th, 2009, 03:34 PM
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Not wrora, its khoro, and no my parents aren't gifted, neither are the parents of friends I mentioned, I guess it was a matter of principle, they knew that if they didn't keep the language going, it would be lost.
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Jun 26th, 2009, 03:40 PM
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Does this mean that a pathan gal should only marry a pathan boy? Coz if she marries a non-pathan then her generation language will be not pushto.
Millay woh Dill mujhay jo pyaar ke qabil ho, Meray qabil ho... :wub: Jissay dhoonda hai nazron ne wohi masoom sa dill ho :wub:
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Jun 26th, 2009, 04:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FairyTale
Does this mean that a pathan gal should only marry a pathan boy? Coz if she marries a non-pathan then her generation language will be not pushto.
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lineage doesnt run from women.
its no problem if a pashtun girl marries a non-pashtun and her childs do not know pashto.
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Jun 26th, 2009, 05:05 PM
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And I walk the road alone
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what if father has got all gals n no son?
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Jun 26th, 2009, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FairyTale
what if father has got all gals n no son?
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so no further shajra but there r few historical exeptions .
(remember that i m talking in context of pashtuns who have organized system of khels. i now names of my forefathers for abt 9 generations)
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Jun 26th, 2009, 05:41 PM
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And I walk the road alone
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I know abt my 7 generations too.
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Jun 26th, 2009, 06:16 PM
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^ r u a pashtana?
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Jun 26th, 2009, 06:31 PM
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And I walk the road alone
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Does it make any difference? but yes i am. and i am what your id says. 
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Jun 26th, 2009, 07:42 PM
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^u mean u r marwat?
by the way why u get rude
when i asked whether u r pashtun.
is'nt ur hesitancy reflects inferiority complex.
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Jun 26th, 2009, 07:45 PM
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And I walk the road alone
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I feel you are rude now ... arent u ?
I am never rude....btw i didnt hide anything.
i was not hesitant or have any complex but may be i do not share with strangers very easily.
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Jun 26th, 2009, 07:49 PM
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if u r a marwat than i can explain why i bcome rude. wil u want me to explain?
by the way it is forum, no question of being stranger.
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