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      Now im not racist but i do get pissed off with all these people coming into the UK...

      Now before i go on let me create a distinction...i dont mind people who work...people who pay taxes and people who contribute...Damn my mum was a refugee...

      What i hate is people that come here and contribute nothing...Those benefit bums...

      Firstly these people are in no need of asylum...Majority of people that need asylum are people in politics...ie Benazir Bhutto is an example...not some man struggling for bread in his country...like the government cares...most people that come here are a danger to their own people not the other way round...and they come here and give us that...

      They just come here and sit on benefits...start talking about how much they hate Britain and then eat up our money...hypocrites...

      Oh sorry did i say they don't contribute...of course they do...ask that girl that got infected with HIV cos some stupid immigrant raped her...
      They help create queues at the hospital like that Nigerian woman that needed an operation...go to the back of the queue...you dont pay for the service so f*** off...
      Damn well they contribute...

      If you want a service then work for it...Immigration should be very simple...Contribute something...be a doctor...a streetsweeper whatever...just help build the country otherwise rot in your country...and check for criminal records before you let these fools in...

      And yes if you commit a crime you should be deported...your a guest in my house...if you abuse me then i will throw you out...so behave...

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      If you are a UK-born, were your parents born in UK too?
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      ^He just said his mother was a refugee
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      Quote Originally Posted by cat-woman
      ^He just said his mother was a refugee
      a refugee could be born in UK too

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      I am sorry but I completely disagree. I am assuming you are Pakistani. From most of the studies on British-Pakistanis, the 2nd and 3rd generation hasn't exactly 'done well' for itself as community. Despite the advantages of being British born and fluent in English, the younger generation has not taken advantage of the opportunities.

      I believe that the majority of immigrants work very hard. Sure there are bad apples amongst the bunch, but that applies to the 'native' population as well. Accidents of birth in a specific land cannot be equated with inherent privileges. My membership status precludes me from posting links.

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      We have the same problem here in the USA, where Mexicans regularly cross the Southern border. It's more complicated than that, of course.

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      My mother is half Pakistani...and she was granted stay in the UK...im born here...she works and pays taxes and contributes...Thats all i ask...be a doctor...be a streetsweeper whatever...just provide a service and you are fine with me...

      So 'Hustler25' bro i stated that i didnt have an issue with all immigrants...just those who eat, get healthcare etc on my expense when they havent earnt it...

      As for native population granted...you have people on benefits who are useless aswell...English people who i dont like 24% of my money going to...
      stupid 10 year old girls getting pregnant deserve none of my money...

      As for being born somewhere not privileged...i dont care...im not responsible for your plight so shouldnt have to pick up the pieces...do something useful when you get here and look after yourself...

      And as for inherent priveleges do you think that a nigerian without a UK passport here on holiday is entitled to a heart transplant by virtue of being in the country?...

      And stewie if im right...your immigration setup isnt bad...its just you get a lot of illegals...our immigration setup seems to allow bums and criminal in...
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      I agree with you, the thing is the government is not doing nothing at all and the BNP is making gains. This can only spell bad news for us all...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Naughty by Nature
      And stewie if im right...your immigration setup isnt bad...its just you get a lot of illegals...our immigration setup seems to allow bums and criminal in...
      Essentially, there is no setup along most of the border. If I understand the UK well, there aren't any third world countries bordering it. The immigrants to the UK generally aren't illegal third world country laborers who sneak into the country. But that's not the case here. But I do agree that the illegal immigrants in America are not bums, they work very hard for very low pay.

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      I sooo agree wiv u man, these money grabbing bstrds get on my tits, they live on our hard earned taxes and give all coloured people a bad name because BNP type people paint us all with the same brush, even though we’re just as affected as white people because our taxes are going to these bstrds, look at NHS (average Joe can’t afford dentist anymore) and age for pensions is going to 68/75? that there’s hardly any point in having them because my generation will be dead by the time we’re entitled to a pension (I think I might join the pension scheme at part time job, it’ll be something).

      The first generation of Pakis who come here were hardworking people, some even worked like 116 hrs or so a week, going sleepless for days because they needed the money but these dickwads who immigrate nowadays are a nuisance.

      One thing else which pisses me off is Paki families marrying their young ones "back home", we'll never assimilate at that rate.

      Having said that most our generation born in this country are a mess and spoil our image more than anyone (some are quite fit but that's besides the point), look at all the Punjabi/Mirpuri youth they’re a mess in every sense of the word, high school dropouts only good for smoking weed and mugging old ladies, the funny thing is though that acting ghetto doesn’t even suit them because as an Afghan said on another website “Desis trying to act ghetto is like Margaret Thatcher trying to rap, humorous and worrying at the same time.” They think that’s all life is about ganja, white chav birds, booze, mum’s curry and listening to bhangra, flying the Paki flag on their car and a monthly yaatra with Tableeghi Jamaat.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Naughty by Nature
      My mother is half Pakistani...and she was granted stay in the UK...im born here...she works and pays taxes and contributes...Thats all i ask...be a doctor...be a streetsweeper whatever...just provide a service and you are fine with me...

      So 'Hustler25' bro i stated that i didnt have an issue with all immigrants...just those who eat, get healthcare etc on my expense when they havent earnt it...

      As for native population granted...you have people on benefits who are useless aswell...English people who i dont like 24% of my money going to...
      stupid 10 year old girls getting pregnant deserve none of my money...

      As for being born somewhere not privileged...i dont care...im not responsible for your plight so shouldnt have to pick up the pieces...do something useful when you get here and look after yourself...

      And as for inherent priveleges do you think that a nigerian without a UK passport here on holiday is entitled to a heart transplant by virtue of being in the country?...
      My point here is not say that immigrants don't abuse the system, but rather highlight the fact that 'useless' people exist on both immigrant and native side. No one is saying that it is your responsibility to worry about other peoples plight, instead all I am saying is that you had no choice where you were born, prince or pauper.

      If there are avenues open to abuse then ofcourse they should be shut down. In the US there used to be a similar argument on welfare, where many conservatives would rail against social welfare to the poor. The very same people would stay mum on corporate welfare through tax breaks! The analogy may be loose, but the point still stands: Anyone abusing the system, immigrant or native should be condemned equally. After all both are wasting your hard earned pounds.

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      The whole stereotypical first post is based on bad examples. First you give the name of Benazir Bhutto as an example of political asylum seeker, and then say they claim welfare. At least get your examples relate to each other before making inane accusations.
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      Faisal...
      My examples are fine...For instance the Benazir Bhutto one...my point is genuine asylum seekers tend to be quite wealthy...as they tend to be political figures in their country...You know how many Iraqi top brass reside in the UK since the demise of the regime...they dont effect my tax bill as they tend to be professionals...

      My issue is that the majority of people that claim political asylum arent in any danger...they are just poverty stricken or prison bound and come here for that meal ticket or to escape imprisonment...imprisonment not for political reasons but for actual crimes...why should we look after these people?...

      And my friend as for stereotypes...you dont live here...i do...so experience first hand these pathetic Kosovans, Somalians, Pakis and Bengalis just lazing around on benefits committing crimes...while i pay for their food and clothing...
      And the examples are real...Africans are coming here and infecting people with HIV for instance...Indians, Orientals and Eastern Europeans generally work hard when they get here...i wish the rest would do the same...

      The far right as Rizwan and Faruk have pointed out is starting to perform...and they arent only attracting white voters funnily enough...its bad for us...

      Hustler25...
      I agree with you...there are native people who are useless too and because they are native you have to accept it...with immigrants im suggesting dont let them in unless they can contribute...

      Xara...
      I know thats why i created the distinction between those that benefit the country and the parasites that leech the country and then moan about how much they hate it...And Xara i disagree...i shouldnt have to live with it...

      Stewie...
      Regulations is tough in the US...so any immigration problems you have arent the fault of the state whereas in the UK our system is flawed...Our criteria is nonsense...We are far to nice a state to people who really dont deserve it...Imagine if the US allowed plane hijackers a right to stay...Pathetic...




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      Immigrants add to the richness of the country and keep the economy afloat.

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      o personally agree it really gets on my nose .i was in class a religous studies class and we were discusiing home owners and only one person in the class has thier own house and thats me lol the rest in council houses.
      some one said brit paks havent done well for themselves i think that is so trerue we dont realise how lucky we r we have a free education we have the freedom to speak on issues we think r wrong and if most of us were back home u wouldnt be given such oppurtunites.
      another thing i have noticed if there r any mirpuris here from the uk why do u call urself kashmiri? i am not mirpuri i am from the north of pak but still everytime i come accros a mirpuri they ask me so were u from i tell them and i ask them they say oh were kashmri and i ask were in kashmir they say oh jhelum????????????????????????????

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      Quote Originally Posted by zayma
      o personally agree it really gets on my nose .i was in class a religous studies class and we were discusiing home owners and only one person in the class has thier own house and thats me lol the rest in council houses.
      some one said brit paks havent done well for themselves i think that is so trerue we dont realise how lucky we r we have a free education we have the freedom to speak on issues we think r wrong and if most of us were back home u wouldnt be given such oppurtunites.
      another thing i have noticed if there r any mirpuris here from the uk why do u call urself kashmiri? i am not mirpuri i am from the north of pak but still everytime i come accros a mirpuri they ask me so were u from i tell them and i ask them they say oh were kashmri and i ask were in kashmir they say oh jhelum????????????????????????????
      But Jhelum aint mirpur...???? is it?
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