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      Can someone give some more details about ALCOHOL in COKE ... cuz i was unaware of this.
      Need some solid information, not some link to some website that your Uncle created.

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      Originally posted by ghalib:
      I can suggest a lotta things the maulana could do with that bottle (inverted or not) besides reading it off the mirror. But forget this!! Most maulana are idiots and their followers are even bigger idiots.
      You are a moderator!??!!

      I am surprised that such is the state of Muslims nowadays.

      The name you use is Ghalib, so I assume you are a Muslim!!!

      How can you call a Maulana an Idiot???... when you have never met the person who said or even read about what he actually said???

      To discuss what a person said at an intellectual level is fine and well within the confines of a sensible debate, but to start throwing insults at a person who is not even present to defend him/herself is very unislamic.

      Did you know that for over 1000 years Muslims (the Maulanas you have so much contempt for) were the best Scientists, Mathematicians, Astrologers, Astronomers and were the leaders in world development...and did you know that they got most of the sources of development came from the Qur'an itself???

      Muslims were what America is right now!!
      But America has only been 'leader' for the alst 100 years or so, Muslims were leaders for over 1000 years..... please study your OWN history...

      It seems you have been brain-washed by the Western media into thinking and believing that anything Muslim or Islamic is bad, I suggest you visit this link and please for YOUR sake Read!!! (Iqra)
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      It's true that Muslim Maulanas were good at one time ... but same can't be said about them anymore. Most of the Maulanas, specially from Indian Sub-Continent are the most corrupt leaders you can find in the world. Their teachings are anything but Islam.
      This doesn't mean that all of them are bad, but sad part is the Majority of them are.

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      Imtiaz mian,

      thank you for the brief history lesson on Islam and a sermon on qualities of mullahs. But you need to give this sermon/history lesson to a crowd which readily accepts everything uttered outta mullah's mouth. Some of us actually use our heads and question the logic, not to mention relevance to religion.

      ciao...

      p.s.. yes I am a mod!! why so surprised?

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      Originally posted by ghalib:
      Imtiaz mian,

      thank you for the brief history lesson on Islam and a sermon on qualities of mullahs. But you need to give this sermon/history lesson to a crowd which readily accepts everything uttered outta mullah's mouth. Some of us actually use our heads and question the logic, not to mention relevance to religion.

      ciao...

      p.s.. yes I am a mod!! why so surprised?
      Islam is NOT a religion, it is a way of life, and it is logical. I suggest you study the Qur'an yourself, then you can correct the Mullahs on what they have said wrong, by quoting them from the Qur'an

      .....but of course sadly, you will get your sources from the Western media, who have taught you from a young age that Islam is wrong, the Muslim leaders are wrong and that the Qur'an belongs only in the Mosques......

      ISLAM IS A WAY OF LIFE!!! NOT A RELIGION!!

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      the queston is if coke does contain alcohal r us muslims gonna stop drinkin it, some of us r already addicted(it's a good job i don't like n e drink)i don't think we will
      lately in uk we were told that walkers cheese and union crisps contained some animal fat in it, no1 stopeed eatin them

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      Bolley Ballee ... you raised a good question ... i wonder if it's proven that COKE has Alcohol (which i dont believe it does) would we Muslims stop drinking it???

      I know i would, even though i LOVE coke, i mean other than Water, i only drink COKE.

      would you???

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      Originally posted by Bhola#1:

      It's true that Muslim Maulanas were good at one time ... but same can't be said about them anymore. Most of the Maulanas, specially from Indian Sub-Continent are the most corrupt leaders you can find in the world. Their teachings are anything but Islam.
      This doesn't mean that all of them are bad, but sad part is the Majority of them are.
      You seem intelligent, why dont you study the Qur'an yourself and tell the maulanas that what they are doing is unislamic?...and quote them from the Qur'an which contradicts their teachings?

      .....I have done with our local Maulana, he agreed with me and apologised....

      Let me quote you have a hadith.

      Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said, whosoever of you sees an wrong deed being performed, you must try to stop it with your hands, if you cannot stop with your hands, try to stop it with your mouth and if you cannot do that, then you must hold it in your heart and that is the weakest of iman.

      ...and surely our Iman is so weak, that we cannot even tell person what he is doing is wrong....maybe he doesnt even know he is wrong.... maybe thats the way he has been taught...

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      Originally posted by ghalib:
      I can suggest a lotta things the maulana could do with that bottle (inverted or not) besides reading it off the mirror. But forget this!! Most maulana are idiots and their followers are even bigger idiots.
      tameez hai aap mein baat kurnay kee...!
      koee aur asiey bolta toe uskee post mods delete kur daitey... Islam is your religion.. and you ridicule the people who follow it..! Some maulanas give a wrong impression of islam but most maulanas..? i don't think so..

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      My reply to the original question:

      I agree to the fact that some maulanas have too much time for coming up with these fatwas.. just complicating our lives with more fatwas which signify nothing..

      Lets just think that it does say that when inverted ..ok... what exactly does it signify written like that... certainly no muslim would drink it if he knew what it read.. written in code like that certainly doesn't affect us muslims..!

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      Imtiaz it's perfectly OK to tell another muslim of what he is doing wrong. I have no problem with that.
      But there is nothing wrong with debating about what you think is right and what I think is right.

      e.g. if you can prove to me that Coke has Alcohol or if Coke Inc. did this whole LOGO thing on purpose, I WILL STOP DRINKING COKE. Simple as that.



      [This message has been edited by Bhola#1 (edited December 26, 2000).]

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      Yaar Bhola,

      Whether it has Alcohol in it is another matter....but aren't these facts enough for you to stop drinking this stuff?

      To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl. Let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.

      To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a crumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminium foil dipped in Coca-Cola.

      To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.

      To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes.

      To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan; wrap the ham in aluminium foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is finished, remove the foil, allowing the rippings to mix with the Coke for a sumptuous brown gravy.

      To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of Coke into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

      AND WE DRINK THIS STUFF! Coke & Pepsi For your info: The average pH of soft drinks, e.g. Coke, Pepsi is pH 3.4. This acidity is strong enough to dissolve teeth and bones! Our human body stops building bones at around the age of 30. After that it'll be dissolving about 8-18% of the bones each year through the urine depending on the acidity of the food intake (acidity does not depend on the taste of the food, but on the ratio of potassium / calcium / magnesium / etc. to phosphorus).

      All the dissolved calcium compounds accumulate in the arteries, veins, skin tissue, organs. This affects the functioning of the kidney (kidney stones).

      Soft drinks do not have any nutritional value (in terms of vitamins and minerals). They have higher sugar content, higher acidity, and more additives such as preservatives and colourings.

      Some people like to take cold soft drinks after each meal, guess what's the impact? Our body has an optimum temperature of 37 degrees for the functioning of digestive enzymes. The temperature of cold soft drinks is much less than 37, sometimes quite close to 0. This will lower the effectiveness of the enzymes and put stress on the digestive system, digesting less food. In fact the food gets fermented. The fermented food produces bad smellin gases, decays and forms toxins which are absorbed in the intestines, get circulated in the blood and is delivered to the whole body. This spread of toxins can lead to the development of various diseases.

      Think before you drink Coke or Pepsi or any another soft drink. Have you ever thought what you drink when you drink an aerated drink? You gulp down carbon dioxide, something that nobody in the world would advise you to do.

      Two months ago, there was a competition in Delhi University "Who can drink the most Coke?". The winner drank 8 bottles and died on the spot because too much carbon dioxide in the blood and not enough oxygen. From then on, the principal banned all soft drinks from the university canteen.

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      Originally posted by Bhola#1:
      if you can prove to me that Coke has Alcohol or if Coke Inc. did this whole LOGO thing on purpose, I WILL STOP DRINKING COKE. Simple as that.
      exactly.. http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/ok.gif

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      Imtiaz,
      you started this thread saying it says "No Muhammad No Mecca" on the inverted coca cola loga.. right... another point that came up was that it has alcohol.. prove those two points first..!

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      Yaar Imtiaz, i agree that coke is bad for my health, but so are lot of other things i eat.
      I mean we all love 'Pakoras' and 'Samosas', but you know it's bad for us. All the OIL is very bad for us, more dangerous than COKE. So is it wrong to eat that too???

      Anyway if you want to fight against COKE cuz it's bad for health, i AGREE, but if you are making this an Islamic issue becuz the owners are JEW or because of the LOGO thing, it doesn't make too much sense.


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      Originally posted by ammarr:
      Imtiaz,
      you started this thread saying it says "No Muhammad No Mecca" on the inverted coca cola loga.. right... another point that came up was that it has alcohol.. prove those two points first..!
      I did NOT start this thread.....

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      >>>tameez hai aap mein baat kurnay kee...!

      Bilkul hai jinaab. poochnney ki takleef kassey kari apney?


      >>>koee aur asiey bolta toe uskee post mods delete kur daitey

      For thinking mullahs as idiots?? I don't think so dude. The mods are a bit more complex and don't jump on people's throat for questioning mullah maulanas....

      >>>Islam is your religion.. and you ridicule the people who follow it..!

      Yes!! I do consider a specific segment of followers (already described above) to be idiots.

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      Originally posted by ghalib:
      >>>tameez hai aap mein baat kurnay kee...!

      Bilkul hai jinaab. poochnney ki takleef kassey kari apney?


      >>>koee aur asiey bolta toe uskee post mods delete kur daitey

      For thinking mullahs as idiots?? I don't think so dude. The mods are a bit more complex and don't jump on people's throat for questioning mullah maulanas....

      >>>Islam is your religion.. and you ridicule the people who follow it..!

      Yes!! I do consider a specific segment of followers (already described above) to be idiots.
      You really are a very rude person, to call insulting names to person who may be older than your dad or even grand dad!!!

      ....I would not even do that to a Kafir.

      Just like the Prophet never called anyone any names, and you utter insulting names to individuals who say 'La illah ha ilallah Muhammad urasool ullah' ???

      ...May Allah have mercy on your soul on the day of Judgement.....

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      Imtiaz saheb.... yeh kahan nikal gaye aap. You have taken the whole discussion on a different tangent. Its a good thing you started another thread

      Anyway, this what you said:

      Originally posted by Imtiaz Khan:
      Coke & Pepsi For your info: The average pH of soft drinks, e.g. Coke, Pepsi is pH 3.4. This acidity is strong enough to dissolve teeth and bones! Our human body stops building bones at around the age of 30. After that it'll be dissolving about 8-18% of the bones each year through the urine depending on the acidity of the food intake (acidity does not depend on the taste of the food, but on the ratio of potassium / calcium / magnesium / etc. to phosphorus).
      I had posted something similar here about 2-3 months back. However, lets put this thing like this.

      Do you drink fresh juices? Lets say, do you like fresh orange juice? Do you know that a fresh orange juice has also the approximately the same pH factor as Coke. If you put human teeth in fresh orange juice, it will also dissolve in a few days. So does it prove anything? May be it does. We shouldn't drink orange juice as well. Fresh water is da best!

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