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Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:23 AM
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Salaam! i have been suffering from Type 2 daibetes for past 6 yrs,and i'm only 25yrs old.2 months ago i start to take kalonji (grounded)with warm water on empty stomach each morning and before bed at night.i have avoided all the fried foods and sweet things.2 weeks ago i monitored my blood glucose after lunch which was only 6 and it remained normal whenever i tested it.in the past when i ate a lil sweet thing it will go up to 16!! so in order to make sure if i really got rid of diabetes today i ate 2 fish burgers,1 large fries with a strawberry milkshake but my glucose level was only at 7.2!!!i can't believe it!!kalonji is reaLLY really a miracle!!!!!!!my father who need to inject insulin 2 times aday have now been reduced to once in the morning. so pls pls pls!!! anyone who read this pls spread this to all the diabetes sufferer !PLS!!!
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:43 AM
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hmmm nice my mum is also a type 2 diabetes patient, what about kalonji oil if u cant get seeds?does it have same effect?
plz pm me as to hw much u take n that much appreciated
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:49 AM
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kalonji doesnt suit my mom 
:dont play stupid with me.........im better at it!!: :snooty:
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetu
hmmm nice my mum is also a type 2 diabetes patient, what about kalonji oil if u cant get seeds?does it have same effect?
plz pm me as to hw much u take n that much appreciated
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i take 1 pinch of it.less then 1/4 teaspoon. and i use to mix 1 teaspoon of kalonji oil with half teaspoon manuka honey and 1 pinch of kalonji seeds(grounded) in hot water for my father's kidneys. now his kidneys r working fine altho not 100% fine but the doctor said it is working normal!! so the oil is really very very effective!! expecially for hair and skin!
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:52 AM
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kalonji doesnt suit my mom 
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huh? o.O?
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 05:18 AM
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i know its wierd but she feels dizzy if she has kalonji
dont know y ?? 
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 05:59 AM
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Thanks, I will try it as I also suffer from type 2 as well now for over 11 years but have managed to control it with tablets.
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:03 PM
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I will ask my dad to try.
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Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:14 PM
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you probably should be cutting the McD stuff like fish burgers and heavy shakes. ok really. no shakes. why would you even risk that?
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Aug 5th, 2008, 06:55 PM
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Thanks, I will try it as I also suffer from type 2 as well now for over 11 years but have managed to control it with tablets.
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Tablets can kill u! i've never taken those tablets in these 6 yrs coz i can see what it did to my dad.cataract! kidney failure! etc, and u can't live without it once u've started it! my dietitian said he won't advise me to control it with tablets due to all the side effects! anyway don't give up kalonji if u don't seen any result in 2 months coz for some plp it takes more time.and whenever u take it say Bismillah & remember that u r taking it all coz of it was told by our Prophet(swa) and u believe that the Masomeen (as) never lies. so Good luck.
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Aug 5th, 2008, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Khumar
you probably should be cutting the McD stuff like fish burgers and heavy shakes. ok really. no shakes. why would you even risk that?
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haha someone needs to be the guinea-pig. anyway i had mcd last night too 1 shake 1 sundae 2 large fires and 1 fish burger. and i tested my glucose 1 hr later which was only at 5.8.Thx Allah! anyway i have had enough balance diet 4 past 6 yrs ,so spoiling myself once in a while won't be a problem right?anyway i have decided to ask my doctor to check if i'm really ok now. ^^
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Aug 5th, 2008, 08:31 PM
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thats really good to know man.. get urself checked up from ur doctor if you're really ok with all that stuff that u ate.. but u really shud be avoiding these stuff man.. once in a while is ok but try not eating a lot of that..
Jo khaak mein mile usse milta hai aashnaaN
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Aug 5th, 2008, 08:59 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I am going to ass it on to people I kknow who have diabetes too.
I recenty read in the book called"You , the owner's manual" By dr Oz, that for every year a person suffers from Diabetes, it takes 1.5 year off of their life.That in itself is scary  .I pray that all of the people who sufer from it get better.
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Aug 5th, 2008, 10:10 PM
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make sure u pass it on to ppl, and not ass it on eh?
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Aug 5th, 2008, 10:21 PM
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What about some herbs called "Zeerri"?? Its smell's like zeera so maybe these are some grounded stems of zeera plant but has anyone tried it? Someone told us it's good (didnt know about kalonji, though).
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Aug 5th, 2008, 10:32 PM
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There is no cure for type II diabetes. Even pancreas transplant will not help. Anyone who discovers a cure will be awarded Nobel prize. I suffer from it too.
There are various treatments for it which are and should be supervised by doctors. Even if you think Kalungi is helping you , it is not a cure it is just a treatment. You can never get rid of type II diabetes. Anybody who is on any kind of medication for treatment of diabetes should not take any chances by stopping that treatment. You can try anything you feel like in conjunction with the medication you are on. Diabetes is a silent killer , you will never know if your condition worsens.
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Aug 6th, 2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mirch
There is no cure for type II diabetes. Even pancreas transplant will not help. Anyone who discovers a cure will be awarded Nobel prize. I suffer from it too.
There are various treatments for it which are and should be supervised by doctors. Even if you think Kalungi is helping you , it is not a cure it is just a treatment. You can never get rid of type II diabetes. Anybody who is on any kind of medication for treatment of diabetes should not take any chances by stopping that treatment. You can try anything you feel like in conjunction with the medication you are on. Diabetes is a silent killer , you will never know if your condition worsens.
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Just what makes u thinks that there's no cure for diabetes? those ignorant foolish scientists and doctors? who don't even believe in what eyes can't see? when they don't even realize that their eyes r only made to see what Allah wishes them to see?. our eyes can only see very little of it. anyway what i wanna say is that i believe in what our beloved Prophet(swa) has said and they can never never lie . and if u doubt in their words it means that u r in great danger.anyway just try it for few months and see what it can do, don't jsut say u don't believe when u haven't even tried it yet.just see it for urself.
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Aug 6th, 2008, 10:27 AM
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Thanks for sharing. I am going to ass it on to people I kknow who have diabetes too.
I recenty read in the book called"You , the owner's manual" By dr Oz, that for every year a person suffers from Diabetes, it takes 1.5 year off of their life.That in itself is scary  .I pray that all of the people who sufer from it get better.
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^^ Thank you so much that's really so kind of u!
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Aug 6th, 2008, 10:29 AM
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thats really good to know man.. get urself checked up from ur doctor if you're really ok with all that stuff that u ate.. but u really shud be avoiding these stuff man.. once in a while is ok but try not eating a lot of that..
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yeah but i won't be having any of that for next few months i need to lose some weight! lol
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Aug 6th, 2008, 10:34 AM
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Just what makes u thinks that there's no cure for diabetes? those ignorant foolish scientists and doctors? who don't even believe in what eyes can't see? when they don't even realize that their eyes r only made to see what Allah wishes them to see?. our eyes can only see very little of it. anyway what i wanna say is that i believe in what our beloved Prophet(swa) has said and they can never never lie . and if u doubt in their words it means that u r in great danger.anyway just try it for few months and see what it can do, don't jsut say u don't believe when u haven't even tried it yet.just see it for urself.
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and yeah i have never told anyone to stop their diabetes treatment coz they can take kalonji even if they r on medications. like my dad. the doctor notice the improvement in him and he reduced his injections. so just don't reduce ur medication urself.
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Aug 6th, 2008, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hime
Just what makes u thinks that there's no cure for diabetes? those ignorant foolish scientists and doctors? who don't even believe in what eyes can't see? when they don't even realize that their eyes r only made to see what Allah wishes them to see?. our eyes can only see very little of it. anyway what i wanna say is that i believe in what our beloved Prophet(swa) has said and they can never never lie . and if u doubt in their words it means that u r in great danger.anyway just try it for few months and see what it can do, don't jsut say u don't believe when u haven't even tried it yet.just see it for urself.
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Take a chill pill pal in addition to kalongi . Looks like kalongi is working for your diabetes not to control you blood pressure . You believe in what you believe , I did not say that you should stop doing what you are doing. I did not say that I will not try what you tried and seems to be working. I will try that too. All I am saying is CURE is a big word , it should not be taken so lightly , it takes years of research to declare something to be a CURE of a disease. Diabetes is not a disease like common cold it is silent killer . So if someone becomes lax about their treatment based on the notion that they have been cured by using kalongi on a few months use of it and do not monitor their sugar or do not go their doctor regularly and if in fact kalongi is not a cure , and if it is just a treatment like many other treatments , then those people are endangering their lives and you are endangering yours and their lives too.
Rest is up to you , I am trying to be a voice of reason.
P.S: Please do not bother to post a reply to this post . It is my last post in this thread on this topic.
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Aug 6th, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ambassador1
What about some herbs called "Zeerri"?? Its smell's like zeera so maybe these are some grounded stems of zeera plant but has anyone tried it? Someone told us it's good (didnt know about kalonji, though).
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yes i have tried it i think its also known as kalli(black) zeerri or jeeri as my nana says, its very very bitter not sure if it helps in diabetes tho i tried it for skin problems
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Originally Posted by Mirch
There is no cure for type II diabetes. Even pancreas transplant will not help. Anyone who discovers a cure will be awarded Nobel prize. I suffer from it too.
There are various treatments for it which are and should be supervised by doctors. Even if you think Kalungi is helping you , it is not a cure it is just a treatment. You can never get rid of type II diabetes. Anybody who is on any kind of medication for treatment of diabetes should not take any chances by stopping that treatment. You can try anything you feel like in conjunction with the medication you are on. Diabetes is a silent killer , you will never know if your condition worsens.
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very true, u can find sme very good treatments but cure in itself is a very big thing
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Aug 6th, 2008, 02:18 PM
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There is some good news for Type II diabetics . I saw a news article on a local TV station last night. This article seems to be old but this is what they were talking about it, and I am going to talk to my doctor during my next visit to him.
Stomach Surgery Successfully Treats Type 2 Diabetes in Test Group
A type of weight-loss surgery called the LAP-BAND has been successful in putting type 2 diabetes in remission, according to researchers in Australia. Doctors from Monash University in Victoria found that the majority of people with type 2 diabetes who were treated with the stomach-reduction surgery achieved better blood-glucose control one year afterward. Results of the study were published in the February 2002 issue of Diabetes Care.
John B. Dixon, MBBS, and colleagues studied the effects of laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding (LAP-BAND) surgery on 50 people with morbid obesity and type 2 diabetes. All subjects were screened for diabetes, had a mean weight of about 302 pounds (meaning that half weighed less than 302 pounds and half weighed more), and had a Body Mass Index of 35 or higher.
The LAP-BAND procedure involves having an adjustable silicone band placed around the upper section of the stomach to create a small pouch.
"This limits food consumption and creates an earlier feeling of fullness," according to Inamed Corporation, the maker of the band. "The band is inflatable and connected to an access port placed close to the skin that allows surgeons to adjust the system to meet individual patient needs. The procedure is reversible and does not require cutting or stapling of the stomach."
One year after the operation, 64 percent (32) of the patients experienced remission of their type 2 diabetes, which was defined as having normal fasting blood glucose, A1C, fasting insulin and C-peptide levels, according to Diabetes Care. Average A1C levels were 7.8% before the operation and 6.2% one year after the operation. The subsequent weight loss caused significant improvements in cholesterol levels, hypertension, sleep, depression and quality of life.
Six percent of the patients experienced early complications (wound infections and need for respiratory support), and 30 percent of the patients experienced late complications (prolapse of the band, erosion of the band and leaking) that required follow-up treatment.
"Our experience with the LAP-BAND system shows that some patients with type 2 diabetes. truly benefit from its use. With obesity hitting epidemic proportions, this is a viable option that curtails severe obesity, which helps decrease the severity of risk of developing other co-existing conditions," said Dr. Dixon in the Inamed press release.
The LAP-BAND operation was recently approved for use in the United States. It promotes weight loss progressively over the first two to three years and plateaus at six years after the operation, the researchers state in the study.
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Aug 6th, 2008, 04:16 PM
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My mother has started taking that (Zeerri) from today (apart from her usual medication, ofcourse). Hope it works.
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yes i have tried it i think its also known as kalli(black) zeerri or jeeri as my nana says, its very very bitter not sure if it helps in diabetes tho i tried it for skin problems
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Aug 6th, 2008, 05:32 PM
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err yea but dont stop with the meds .. i have heard of people going all out after doing these quick remedies and killing themselves because of it. Take things slow and easy . Chances are it will bounce back after a while if you keep doing this.
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Aug 6th, 2008, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mirch
Take a chill pill pal in addition to kalongi . Looks like kalongi is working for your diabetes not to control you blood pressure . You believe in what you believe , I did not say that you should stop doing what you are doing. I did not say that I will not try what you tried and seems to be working. I will try that too. All I am saying is CURE is a big word , it should not be taken so lightly , it takes years of research to declare something to be a CURE of a disease. Diabetes is not a disease like common cold it is silent killer . So if someone becomes lax about their treatment based on the notion that they have been cured by using kalongi on a few months use of it and do not monitor their sugar or do not go their doctor regularly and if in fact kalongi is not a cure , and if it is just a treatment like many other treatments , then those people are endangering their lives and you are endangering yours and their lives too.
Rest is up to you , I am trying to be a voice of reason.
P.S: Please do not bother to post a reply to this post . It is my last post in this thread on this topic.
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reply is for others to see as well, so is ok if u won't reply. but my blood pressure was always ok. and i have repeat many times that who ever thinks that kalonji is helping them or have cured the disease then they must go to the doctor and ge their blood checked. coz kalonji has kept my glucose level always at 5-7. just imagine someone 's whose blood sugar is so normal and still taking his medication or insulin! that's y they must MUST! go to see their doctor after recovering . and why'll someone stop monitoring their sugar ,since i have been taking kalonji i have been checking it 4 times a day coz the numbers make me so happy. lol
read this:
"It has been reported that in 1996 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted a patent for drug based on extracts of "Nigella Sativa," for the use as an immune system stimulant and for treating cancer, preventing the side effects of anticancer chemotherapy, and for increasing the immune system functions in humans. However a search of the FDA website failed to find any evidence of this and all applications for Kalonji seeds and preparations containing Kalonji have been rejected due to poor presentation, i.e. containing dirt and unfit for human use, but don't let this deter you."
just what do they mean by "dirt and unfit" for human use? this really makes me laugh. is more like they r afraid that their medicine won't sell if a cure is found.and is not poison it won't endanger anyones live just keep checking ur blood sugar.That's it.
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