Mehmood Ghaznavi - Page 3

Arleitter · Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:35 AM

^He was a looter .............

COLD_FIRE · Sep 2nd, 2009, 01:37 PM

Arli, u r so damn predictable.
As u might have noticed, i usually don't just tag a one liner in other threads except cafe, and of the all persons, I knew that YOU will be the only one getting a piss outa my post.
And so, it shows.

Punjabee in USA · Sep 2nd, 2009, 03:39 PM

Mahmood Ghaznavi was as much of a hero (or villain) as the kar-sevaks who demolished the Babri Mosque in 1992.

No, wait ! He was a bigger hero/villain since he carried out his acts 17 times

And lets not forget his affair with Malik Ayaz.

diwana · Sep 2nd, 2009, 11:41 PM

^We know Ghaznavi only followed what local hindus did before his time and during his time.

There was a thread in which his alleged affair was discussed and refuted.

Arleitter · Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:24 AM

^Can you cite one example of Hindus demolishing other believers worship sites,barring Babri Masjid?

Arleitter · Sep 3rd, 2009, 12:25 AM

was his relationship with Ayaz Amir a platonic one :

Punjabee in USA · Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by diwana

^We know Ghaznavi only followed what local hindus did before his time and during his time.

Followed what ? Demolishing religious structures or homesexuality ? And pls substantiate your comments.

flyinkiwi · Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA

Mahmood Ghaznavi was as much of a hero (or villain) as the kar-sevaks who demolished the Babri Mosque in 1992.

No, wait ! He was a bigger hero/villain since he carried out his acts 17 times

And lets not forget his affair with Malik Ayaz.

An affair, what are basing thing on?

flyinkiwi · Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Arleitter

was his relationship with Ayaz Amir a platonic one :

He regarded him a brother....more than hindus could understand.

flyinkiwi · Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:54 AM

NOw why should indians be worried about homosexuality in the first place when you have aloowed it in you freakin country with open arms

Punjabee in USA · Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by flyinkiwi

NOw why should indians be worried about homosexuality in the first place when you have aloowed it in you freakin country with open arms

Ghaznavi was a Muslim "hero" while Indian is not a Muslim country. Let me know if you have difficulty understanding this difference.

flyinkiwi · Sep 3rd, 2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA

Ghaznavi was a Muslim "hero" while Indian is not a Muslim country. Let me know if you have difficulty understanding this difference.

So you saying you would do or say anything to crap on muslims, even if its accptable in your world? I dont get that

Punjabee in USA · Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:04 AM

Ghaznavi was a Muslim, and homo-sexuality is not acceptable in Islam. Despite that he is a hero for Muslims. Would he have been a hero even if he was an idol-worshipper (also not allowed in Islam) ? Something obviously wrong here.

India is a secular (and not a Muslim) country, so laws cannot be made keeping Islam (or Hinduism, Christianity etc.) in mind.

flyinkiwi · Sep 3rd, 2009, 11:09 AM

He was a muslim (An individual) yes and not Islam.....

What are you supporting his homosexuality on? please increase my knowledge as I have never read or heard that he was a homosexual.

COLD_FIRE · Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:51 PM

^ Can u relate to any historical article regarding ur accusation on Ghaznavi?

Punjabee in USA · Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:01 PM

Homosexual and Bisexual Rulers and When They Ruled

Look at # 33

COLD_FIRE · Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:27 PM

^ That's the best u can get!
That's not even a website so to say.

Punjabee in USA · Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:35 PM

^ On Pg # 2

http://www.bobhay.net/_downloads/_ho...ssion%2013.pdf

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Pederasty in Central Asia: Forms of committed relationships between youths and adult men were common-place in Central Asia. The most famous example was the love between Mahmoud of Ghazni and his slave, Ayaz.. Miranda Kennedy says that “Among the Pashtun majority, having a young, attractive boyfriend is a symbol of prestige and wealth for affluent middle-aged men. Indeed, Pashtun men often keep a young boy in their hujra, the male room of the house that the wife rarely enters.” She also says that sex is commonplace in Pakistan's gender-segregated madrassas, or religious schools. However, one of the problems of Western journalists’ reports of boy-marriage in this part of the world is that they often conflate this ancient custom with pedophilia and reduce what was often a love-match to a temporary commercial arrangement.

Google is your best friend

diwana · Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:40 PM

Like I mentioned earlier, this kind of role is not proven and no act of sex between the two can be substantiated. Ayaz was very obedient servant and loyal. he himself was religious and kept reminded himself of his own limit despite Mehmood openly praising him in the court. This made others jealous of Ayaz.

Anyhow some if it has been discussed in another thread. Search Button is for anyone interested to use.

All I see here is Indians are hell bent in without success in portraying Mehmood as a person with bad character.

They are trying to say and make others believe that even a person with homosexual or gay tendency could make hindus of that time subdued. ;-)

Victory · Sep 4th, 2009, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by diwana

Like I mentioned earlier, this kind of role is not proven and no act of sex between the two can be substantiated. Ayaz was very obedient servant and loyal. he himself was religious and kept reminded himself of his own limit despite Mehmood openly praising him in the court. This made others jealous of Ayaz.

Anyhow some if it has been discussed in another thread. Search Button is for anyone interested to use.

All I see here is Indians are hell bent in without success in portraying Mehmood as a person with bad character.

They are trying to say and make others believe that even a person with homosexual or gay tendency could make hindus of that time subdued. ;-)

There are scores of documents on Mehmood's sex life with the boy. If you refer to any historical accounts, that was the accepted norm of the pashtun society (esp high society). Mehmood was not Gay, but bisexual. Infact many rulers of afghanistan and current day NWFP of pakistan were bisexual. That's the truth and its left to you to accept or reject it.