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Sep 7th, 2009, 12:02 PM
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There used to be vast civilization along the banks of River Indus thousands of years ago. It was an advanced urban civilization of its time. It covered more area than Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations.
Any idea where those people are now? Or did they just disappear from earth "poof"?
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Sep 7th, 2009, 01:12 PM
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They all died.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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Sep 7th, 2009, 04:31 PM
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Well, I am sure it's a joke.
If they died then present-day people should not be using the cots similar to them. Nor would they be using ox-carts similar to present-day Sindh.
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Sep 9th, 2009, 08:42 AM
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They migrated to other parts of India/Pakistan.
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Sep 9th, 2009, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zxcvb
They migrated to other parts of India/Pakistan.
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I agree. The Harappan civilization had a lot of practices common to modern day Hindus (idol worship, cremation of the dead etc). Some of the symbols found in the excavation resemble Swastika & Shiva Linga.
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Sep 12th, 2009, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zxcvb
They migrated to other parts of India/Pakistan.
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There are no obvious traits of Indus Valley Civilization in people of South India.
Some people real hard to make connection between South India and Indus civilization, but it just isn't there.
Harappan statues show civilization closer to North India, Sindh, and Punjab than South India.
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Sep 12th, 2009, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA
I agree. The Harappan civilization had a lot of practices common to modern day Hindus (idol worship, cremation of the dead etc). Some of the symbols found in the excavation resemble Swastika & Shiva Linga.
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It could also mean that Aryans adopted some aspects of Harappan civilization, and made them a part of their lives.
Interestingly, this term "Hinduism" for a religion did not exist before Muslims arrived from Iran and Afghanistan. But that's for another thread.
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Sep 18th, 2009, 12:03 AM
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There is a three-faced statue found in Indus Valley. Interesting.
It looks like this belief of three-faced god influenced not just Hinduism but also Christian Trinity.
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Sep 19th, 2009, 06:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by khoji
It could also mean that Aryans adopted some aspects of Harappan civilization, and made them a part of their lives.
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There is no such thing as "Aryan".
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Originally Posted by khoji
Interestingly, this term "Hinduism" for a religion did not exist before Muslims arrived from Iran and Afghanistan. But that's for another thread.
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Wrong, Persians only used the term Hindu to describe the people who lived at the Indus Valley. It wasn't used to describe people of a certain religion. The first people to ever do that were the British.
You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or who says it. ~ Malcolm X
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Sep 20th, 2009, 08:57 AM
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^ That is correct. Persians used the term Hindu to describe people who lived to their East, and who practiced different religions.
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Sep 20th, 2009, 09:01 AM
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There is no such thing as "Aryan".
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Arguable. But let's say "White" or "WhitER" people from West.
People of Harappa were black.
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Oct 17th, 2009, 06:25 PM
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To answer the title of this thread, children of Harappa are all of us who speak Urdu/Hindi/Sindhi/Punjabi/Gujrati languages.
Harappa people were black as people from Tamil Nadu (S. India). But these people were mixed with waves after waves of white people coming in Indus Valley. These white people were akin to Iranians, and had language and religion similar to old Iranians.
The mix of those two black and white people is the present day population of Northern India (Hindi/Punjabi/Gujrati) and Eastern Pakistan (Punjabi/Sindhi).
These mixed people have their primary languages based on their black Harrappan ancestors (Hindi/Urdu/Punjabi/Sindhi/Gujrati), but their culture based on their white Western ancestors ("Sanskrit" speaking brothers of old Iranians).
These mixed people have forgotten their Harappan culture. Just like Egyptians have forgotten their ancient pharaoh past.
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Oct 24th, 2009, 05:10 PM
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Mostly people try to decipher Indus script by looking into South Indian languages. But if they understand that present day population of Northern India and Eastern Pakistan is descendant of Indus Valley people, then they would try to use their languages for deciphering Indus script.
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