haha..yeah princess fiona sounds like u have a problem..r u a dictator that u can force someone?..who the hell do u think u r?..r u god?..u sound really dominating and full of yourself..i feel sorry for your husband/future husband or frogy or whatever the hell he is..
girly mind ur language.. Learn some manners... this is discussion forum not ur house.. ..
MIND IT... .
I've kissed millions of frogs, but still no prince charming... Åchi ßachi Çlub
Last edited by Princess Fiona; Aug 19th, 2008 at 04:10 PM.
Faisal bhai, Per Islam main yah kio kaha hain kay agar tumhara spouse ghalat rastay pe ja rahi ho to pehlay us ko samjao, per tora sa danto, per bistar alag.... Yes your right that everyone is responsible for their own deeds, but not if they are ur family members... Agar Ap kay oulad batameezi karta ho to u have the right to stop them and teach him the right way or even raise hands on them.. same things applies to spouse.. Some how on the day of judgement you will be responsible for it as well.. just telling your spouse to fast and if they do not listen to you, un ko unkay haal pe chorna yah to koi stranger say hee karta hai na.. biwi ya hubby say to nahi...
just because there are potential options given to people (supposedly) that does not mean they are the only way to resolve something does it?
Your friendly neighbourhood fraudiya loafer luccha lufanga awara ayaash aubaash ghunda badmaash man
just because there are potential options given to people (supposedly) that does not mean they are the only way to resolve something does it?
Well if option is given to you then why not use it? Especially if that option is given from Allah... See iam a girl myself, i shouldn't be saying kay my husband should force me to do something or beat the hell out of me and i wouldn't want it either.. But i am talking in general kay if your spouse is doing something wrong, then make him or her stop it... Why would u want your own spouse to do something which u know is wrong.. What will ur kids learn from it? ohh Ami ya abu roza nahi raktay to main kio rakon? .. Come on would u want ur kids to say tat?
Why you stopped at bistar alag? There are muslims (men, mostly) who'd argue that Islam allows a husband to beat his wife (lightly, of course) if she doesn't obey her husband in matters of religion. While I don't disagree with the premise of this "permission" nor do I question the authenticity of this (pls no long cut-paste here on this), its not something I personally subscribe too. So while some men think its ok to beat their wife, and believe that Islam actually allows it, I prefer to use my own judgement on this.
Secondly, it helps to give your spouse some credit for using their own brain cells. If their judgement is so poor that they can't make the right decisions for themselves, even after you have given them good advice, then actually you have bigger problems in your life than you realize.
And lastly, roza depends a lot on niyyat. As we all know, merely starving is not roza. So whats the point of beating your wife (or husband) or getting angry over it, to make them comply? This logic is a bit too mind-boggling for me to comprehend. I am guessing smarter people here have this figured out.
Faisal Bhai, I stopped at Bistar alag because i wasn't sure what the next step was. So i thought tat i rather stop there than saying something wrong....
And about beating your wife.. In islam where it says kay beat ur wife.. I actually did some research on it.. and I was listening to this guy's lecture.. Yousuf something.. He said kay apparantly the word "Beat" in arabic means "Touch your wife gently" , so that she doesn't get any marks or any signs of being beaten... So if the next step is beating up ur wife than tat is touching her very gently..
Well yes that person would have a greater of a problem if their spouse is soo empty headed not to understand the benefits of Month of ramandan.. and if she/he doesn't have the niyyat for it.. Now How do u fix that problem? Us ko us kay haal pe chordayna? yeah to buzdili howi na....
Maybe your right about all this or maybe iam wrong.. but i think after all one can't sit and watch something wrong happening, especially if that damage is happening in their own house...
this was very uncalled for.. Princess Fiona had her point, if you don't agree with her than simply state your reasons ..
and who are you?..her khasam?..control yourself..u said r married..stop getting into rumbles for other women u besharam beghairat admi..probaby do bachoohns ka baap..tauba..
lahol wala..
**the MAD DUCK!!**
Last edited by soni27; Aug 21st, 2008 at 04:49 PM.
and who are you?..her khasam?..control yourself..u said r married..stop getting into rumbles for other women u besharam beghairat admi..probaby do bachoohns ka baap..tauba..
lahol wala..
who the f do you think you are ? i ain't besharam begharait.. choose your words carefully bachi..
mujh sey khushiaan ley gaya aur degya kagaz kay phoool
abb meray ghar mein paray hain jabaja kagaz kay phoool
and who are you?..her khasam?..control yourself..u said r married..stop getting into rumbles for other women u besharam beghairat admi..probaby do bachoohns ka baap..tauba..
what would you do if your wife refused to fast during ramzan and she had her reasons but u thought they r not valid and that shes just bs-ing?..would u get angry..or not mind?..would u force her or not care?..would u taunt her but not force her?..etc etc..
yeh kaisa sawal hai? agar insaan ki bachi hueen to unko hamaray samjhanay say hi samajh aa jani chahiye .Ramadan ke roze har musalmaan par farz hain aur agar hum apni biwi ko dheel dein ge to youm-e-Akirat pe hum say bhi sawal kiya jae ga.Pyar say pathar bhi pighal jaya kartay hain to zabardasti kaisi?
During Ramadan as well as throughout the rest of the year, all humans should tend to the soul that inhabits their very own body and worry NOT about others even if its a wife or husband. Those who truly beleive and know their religion, those are the ones who set out to follow it and to set an example for fellow man. WITHOUT shoving it down their throats. And those people, the ones who have that all-elusive but profoundly sought-after trait of serenity....those are the ones who can change not only a wife or husband but really, they can change whatever society they come into contact with.
and who are you?..her khasam?..control yourself..u said r married..stop getting into rumbles for other women u besharam beghairat admi..probaby do bachoohns ka baap..tauba..
lahol wala..
Soni that is why I like you so much .. you speak whatever comes to your mind ..
But I am seriously disappointed that you came back 10 minutes later to edit your post ..
kiya dar lug gaya thaa ke koi buraa naa maan jaa'ai
During Ramadan as well as throughout the rest of the year, all humans should tend to the soul that inhabits their very own body and worry NOT about others even if its a wife or husband.
But if are a practising Muslim and you love your spouse and care for them on a truly deep manner, then I dont know how it is possible to NOT worry about them. If you know that fasting is fard and that those who must fast are sinning when they intentially miss their fasts without a valid reason, then wouldnt you naturally be worried for your spouse if they fall into this category? Im not saying beat them or throw them out of the house or anything like that, but if we care for them and want the best for them, should we at least advise them and encourage them and help them to fast. Of course we cant force them, but at least we should encourage them and help them to understand why we must fast and how we must fast and what the consequences are of not fasting. Its the same if your husband is doing drugs or getting drunk everynight or robbing banks or something ---if you know they are doing something wrong, something that will harm them sooner or later, out of your love and compassion for them, wouldnt you want to advise them, to help them, to see them doing good things instead of bad
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yeh kaisa sawal hai?
agar insaan ki bachi hueen to unko hamaray samjhanay say hi samajh aa jani chahiye .Ramadan ke roze har musalmaan par farz hain aur agar hum apni biwi ko dheel dein ge to youm-e-Akirat pe hum say bhi sawal kiya jae ga.Pyar say pathar bhi pighal jaya kartay hain
that is why I like you so much .. you speak whatever comes to your mind .. 
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