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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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son . this really bothered me. I came across a very intelligent person at some website . he's very much qualified and is enjoying the top positions of Pakistan.

looks handsome and has a strange attraction .

but the worst part of his life is that his dad had schizophrenia and killed his mum when he was only 9 years old .

this really scared me , as impressions at such a young age rarely fade away , especially those linked with your parents .

from a psychological point of view will this person suffer from schizophrenia in his later life?//

will he ablle to forget abt his past ?

will he able to live a normal healthy life ?







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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 03:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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well it wont bother me watever his folks did before but there is a chance that he ll inherit schizophrenia







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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 03:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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sounds like he has already inherited it







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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 04:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Maybe that je ne sais quoi about him is an early stage of schizophrenia. What the hell is it anyways?






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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 06:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It can be inherited but the chances are not too high. Its just a 10% chance that he might.






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Maybe that je ne sais quoi about him is an early stage of schizophrenia. What the hell is it anyways?

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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 07:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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why are you calling his father a criminal if he had major schizophrenia, he was not in his right mind, did he even know what he was doing?

I think its tragic, a person who has such a severe mental imbalance that he kills his wife due to it.

so lets see, if that guy's son, lives with this massive tragedy in his life, and deals withthe fear that he may inherit it, and then hears someone call his father a criminal, how do you think that will make him feel?







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Old Aug 19th, 2008, 07:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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you cant say that his father is a criminal he didnt kill his wife becos he had sum motive behind it, he was mentally ill, iff ure concern is with the fact that the schizophrenia can be inherited then u have very right to be, but to be concerned and to hold teh ppor guy to account becos u feel his father is a "criminal" is totally wrong!!






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Old Aug 22nd, 2008, 02:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow.
My uncle too has schizophrenia, and he killed his wife as a result of it. his 2 sons have lived with me and my family since. and let me tell you, they are 2 great and perfectly normal boys mashallah. if your mother or father commited a crime, that traumatised you as a child, and someone was to say to you, "i like you but you may become a criminal too, so i dont want anything to do with you," how would you like it?







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Old Aug 22nd, 2008, 03:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i'm not sure whether he was suffering from extreme mental problems or was this his habitual act






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Old Aug 22nd, 2008, 03:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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son . this really bothered me. I came across a very intelligent person at some website . he's very much qualified and is enjoying the top positions of Pakistan.

looks handsome and has a strange attraction .

but the worst part of his life is that his dad had schizophrenia and killed his mum when he was only 9 years old .

this really scared me , as impressions at such a young age rarely fade away , especially those linked with your parents .

from a psychological point of view will this person suffer from schizophrenia in his later life?//

will he ablle to forget abt his past ?

will he able to live a normal healthy life ?
first of all let's get one thing straight...this gentlemen's father is NOT...i repeat..NOT a criminal!

If the father was diagnosed as having schizophrenia....then he is just that... a schizophrenic. He was suffering from a God given mental illness....he did not choose to be that way nor did environmental factors cause him to become that way.

will he suffer from schizophrenia? There is a possibility. The onset for schizophrenia is early to mid 20s for men and for women early to mid 30s but there are signs that can tell you whether he is headed that way or not. look out for those signs.

will he forget about his past? how can he? it was such a tragic part of his lilfe I dont think anyone could forget such a thing. But that isnt necessarily a bad thing...perhaps he took such a tragedy and turned it into something positive.

will he be able to live a normal healthy life? of course he can.

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sounds like he has already inherited it
what makes you think that? she hasnt said anything about his personality for you to make such an assumption.

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i'm not sure whether he was suffering from extreme mental problems or was this his habitual act
schizophrenia is not habitual...schizophrenia is a mental disease that you are born with.






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Old Aug 24th, 2008, 05:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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AE= many years ago i had a friend whose dad had become schizophrenic . and that was maily becaz he was an addict in his earlier years of life . at that time of life i learnt that most people in pakistan who are addict suffer from this disease.

Addiction and schizophrenia. [Eur Psychiatry. 2000] - PubMed Result

what i'm unsure is of the causes of this disease. i did not ask him as this would hurt him more .
for instance if he was anaddict then killing his wife could be due to any other reason .
but if he was not an addict .. then that is something else .

its useless to conclude whether he is a criminal or not . the point is where does his son stand at ?

people have all kinds od psychologies . some may not even talk to him and some may make friends with him .

and most importantly his adaptations towards life are yet another factor .

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Old Aug 25th, 2008, 10:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Iraj,

I did not read the link you posted as of yet but I wanted to point out one thing to you if I havent already...

Schizophrenia is a genetic disorder. If a parent has the gene for this disorder the child becomes a carrier of it. Now just because one is a carrier of this disease does not mean that they will automatically become a schizophrenic. Carriers can live a perfectly normal life without showing any signs/symptoms of this disease.

With that said, environmental factors (ie stress, depression, addictions etc) do not make a person schizophrenic unless they were already a carrier of this genetic disorder in the first place. Evironmental factors may trigger and activate the already existing gene but it can not make a non-carrier schizophrenic.

another thing I want to mention....people may throw around the term schizophrenic to describe a persons actions but they need to be medically evaluated by a doctor to be called a schizophrenic. Until then no one can know for sure if they were schizophrenic or just suffering from some other psychological issues.






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Old Aug 25th, 2008, 06:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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yea but it can get forwarded to the kid






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Old Aug 26th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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^ do u mean skipping a generation?

there is a very small percentage that it can happen....but there are small percentages for many other genetic and non-genetic diseases as well.






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Old Aug 29th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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would u want to take the added risk that it might happen?






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Old Aug 31st, 2008, 10:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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sounds like he has already inherited it

how so?






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