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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 10:19 AM   #41 (permalink)  
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Hey seef buddy i don't know what is so primitive minded about telling your wife that she is irreplaceable. As far as divorcing your blood is concerned yeah you can't divorce them but you can still disown them, I've seen that happen. Replacing a wife is not an easy process in a western world and even islamically it is not an easy process. I think disowning your blood is probably easier than that but thats just my humble opinion.
If you know how to treat your wife then good for you and its really nice that you love your wife and yes i do not know what happens in your household and I did not make any comment about your specific household as far as I remember. It is also very nice that your wife gets so much love from your family and I commend your family for that and I also totally agree with your last few lines that it is not your wife's job to take care of your mother its your job. The only thing I do not agree with is that you think that your wife is easily replaceable.







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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 10:52 AM   #42 (permalink)  
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The problem with that thinking is you're already comparing. I don't argue to my wife about who's on top of her list. As long as I get the love and respect that a wife gives her husband why should I harp on potential ugly situations?

My wife loves her siblings and mother. I don't bother with nonsense questions like who do you consider above me because i'm being treated like a husband by her.


you didn't reply to my question.

Should your wife's parents and siblings come before you?







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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 10:53 AM   #43 (permalink)  
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I think both husband and wife are replaceable, but unfortunately men here consider only their wives to be replaceable.






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 11:00 AM   #44 (permalink)  
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You're right, it's her fate, her patience, and her trust in Allah that got her married to a loving husband who loves and respects her so much.

You don't know who I am so sthu.

o my are u any president or what so,ur behaviour, ur points had explained the man with in you thats all.......







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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 02:59 PM   #45 (permalink)  
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Hey seef buddy i don't know what is so primitive minded about telling your wife that she is irreplaceable. As far as divorcing your blood is concerned yeah you can't divorce them but you can still disown them, I've seen that happen. Replacing a wife is not an easy process in a western world and even islamically it is not an easy process. I think disowning your blood is probably easier than that but thats just my humble opinion.
If you know how to treat your wife then good for you and its really nice that you love your wife and yes i do not know what happens in your household and I did not make any comment about your specific household as far as I remember. It is also very nice that your wife gets so much love from your family and I commend your family for that and I also totally agree with your last few lines that it is not your wife's job to take care of your mother its your job. The only thing I do not agree with is that you think that your wife is easily replaceable.
It is a major sin to disown a family member. It's not a sin to divorce. That's all i'm going to say about it.






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM   #46 (permalink)  
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you didn't reply to my question.

Should your wife's parents and siblings come before you?
I already answered that question. I don't care where I am on her list.

If i'm #1 or #14 that's not the point. As long as #14 is getting the love and rights that he has over his wife, why should I argue with her about being #14?






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:06 PM   #47 (permalink)  
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Dude i am pretty sure divorcing your wife without a VERY VERY good reason is sin too.






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:08 PM   #48 (permalink)  
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Seef, I don't really know how it works in your houshold but I see alot of men saying that their mothers and siblings come first. But for women its the other way around; husbands must come first.






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:13 PM   #49 (permalink)  
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Seef, I don't really know how it works in your houshold but I see alot of men saying that their mothers and siblings come first. But for women its the other way around; husbands must come first.
Well that's becausea wife usually move in with their in laws or just live with her husband. So she sees her husband more than her mother or siblings.

My wife gets to see her mother and siblings on a regular basis. It's good for me, I get to spend some Seef time.

I don't believe in "who comes first." I consider myself the Holy Trinity: Son/Husband/Brother lol....

I just believe in making adjustments. I have to accommodate for another person (my wife). But it's not an issue with me. Only my wife and my mom and siblings can make it an issue but thank God they haven't. I am truly blessed.






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:14 PM   #50 (permalink)  
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Dude i am pretty sure divorcing your wife without a VERY VERY good reason is sin too.
That may be possible. But you're saying without reason. I'm saying with reason it's ok to divorce.

However, there is no legitimate reason to disown a family member....Hmmmm now why would God do that?






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #51 (permalink)  
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What if they convert to another religion. I think thats a valid reason if we're talking religiously. Another reason might be if that family member does something horribly bad :lets say murder or rape.






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:19 PM   #52 (permalink)  
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I'm a Muslim and I know you don't disown a family member after a sin they commit. Instead of giving up on them you encourage them to do the right thing.






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 03:23 PM   #53 (permalink)  
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And you give up on your wife and divorce her ... thats a good logic






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #54 (permalink)  
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And you give up on your wife and divorce her ... thats a good logic
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Where did I say I would give up on my wife? LOL are you retarded?






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Old Nov 6th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #55 (permalink)  
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What are you talkin about seef ... you just said that divorcing a wife is something that can be easily done but you would never give up on a family member ... before calling me retarded why don't you just read some of your previous posts ... anyhow buddy i'm done with this discussion and i'm sorry if i offended you in some way ... the only point i was trying to make is that wives are not replaceable and shouldn't be made to feel that way and thats about it






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Old Nov 7th, 2009, 09:08 AM   #56 (permalink)  
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Wives are replaceable. It's called divorce and re-marry.

I never said I would give up on my wife if she committed a sin. All I said was I wouldn't give up on my family members. Reading comprehension.






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