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May 19th, 2009, 06:22 PM
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Welcome addition to India's arsenal :biggthumb
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India tests nuclear-capable Agni II missile
Bhubaneswar: India on Tuesday successfully tested the nuclear capable Agni-II missile from a defence base in Orissa, official sources said.
The surface-to-surface missile with a range of over 2,000 km was test fired from the Wheeler's Island near Dhamara in the district of Bhadrak, some 150 km from Bhubaneswar at 1006 hrs IST.
"It was a user trial," the sources said, adding that the aim of the test was to give the Army confidence to fire the missile on its own.
The Agni II missile, which is a part of India's Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme, is 20 metres long.
Weighing 16 tonnes, the missile can carry a payload of around 1,000 kg and its range can also be increased to 3,000 km by reducing the pay load.
"It can be fired from both rail and road mobile launchers. It takes only 15 minutes for the missile to be readied for firing," the sources said, adding that the Agni II-version of the Agni series of missiles was first test fired in 1999 from the same location.
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May 20th, 2009, 12:43 AM
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Punjabee jee, India already has a 3500 km Agni III missile.
why are you celebrating the Agni II 2000 km missile test ? The Agni II is almost 10 years old.
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May 20th, 2009, 02:14 PM
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^ This was a trial by the users (Army) vs. a test fire by the DRDO. Now its really operational 
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May 20th, 2009, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA
^ This was a trial by the users (Army) vs. a test fire by the DRDO. Now its really operational 
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So what? The only cost-effective use of these missiles is with the nukes. And do you really think any single of these missiles is going to be used??? And if it is used, there will no celebration on either side of the border.
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May 20th, 2009, 03:39 PM
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aha, I applaud you on hacking through the propaganda
so it means the Agni III claims last year were premature, going by that 10 year development cycle schedule Agni III should be ready in 2017 :P
It seems Pakistan still holds the advantage.. but nice effort 
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May 20th, 2009, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Prince_of_Lahore
So what? The only cost-effective use of these missiles is with the nukes. And do you really think any single of these missiles is going to be used??? And if it is used, there will no celebration on either side of the border.
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Its just a deterrent, like Pak's nukes....
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Originally Posted by koozager
aha, I applaud you on hacking through the propaganda
so it means the Agni III claims last year were premature, going by that 10 year development cycle schedule Agni III should be ready in 2017 :P
It seems Pakistan still holds the advantage.. but nice effort 
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I'll try once - hopefully it will sink in
Agni II has been tested by the users, and they are comfortable they can use it. Agni III has only been tested by the developers - user testing will also take place. Both of these missiles are operational.
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May 20th, 2009, 04:40 PM
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I agree with prince of Lahore, nobody wants any of these weapons to ever be used by anyone. Lets hope they will never be more than something like ancestral swords polished and hanging on the walls.
However, jubilation over deploying the Agni II missile is curious, like reading an old newspaper or watching a black and white movie, eating cold food or drinking stale beer. Punjabee jee, since you are punjabee, I think you have followed baba Farids verse to the letter by settling for the Agni II in the face of Ghauri III

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May 20th, 2009, 05:18 PM
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Hmm .... most missiles need years of perfection and testing (at least for us kaffirs). This means even a successful testing does not mean no further testing is required. I would not be surprised if the same missile is tested again in a few months. It could be that the multiple re-entry system is being tested this time. It could be some other system being tested next.
Of course, in pakistan 1 testing is enough to declare a missile usable. After all everyone knows they are already dependable/original systems.... 
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May 21st, 2009, 03:45 PM
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We are far ahead of India in missile technology.....
...but still this doesn't give me any joy i really hope these missiles/nukes are never used !
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May 21st, 2009, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ~*Shaz*~
We are far ahead of India in missile technology.....
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Muwwwwwwaaaaaaahhh....
That was a good joke ..... 
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May 21st, 2009, 04:28 PM
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Are you smoking something?
Go do some research !
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May 21st, 2009, 04:37 PM
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And the kewl part is that you are genuinely surprised by my mocking the *idea* that pakis are ahead of India.
And he is asking me to do the research !!!!
Reality and Pakis don't get along well !!
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May 21st, 2009, 04:50 PM
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It's not Pakis it's Pakistanis u retard! get ur facts right....
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May 21st, 2009, 04:56 PM
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Depends on my mood --- i can call them what I like ...
Besides .... this discussion is about the great Pakistani (happy ?  ) missile capabilities... so lets focus there...
So in what area are you guys better then indians.... ? Lets take engines.... do you make your own engines?
Its a quiz - and I promise I will try to be nice to you. But then you might get sad - as I said before - Reality and Pakis dont get along well...
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May 21st, 2009, 05:16 PM
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If pakistanis and reality dont get along why bother coming on a pak forum? Why not go and troll with ur indian friends on indian forums?
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May 21st, 2009, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseguyin
Depends on my mood --- i can call them what I like ...
Besides .... this discussion is about the great Pakistani (happy ?  ) missile capabilities... so lets focus there...
So in what area are you guys better then indians.... ? Lets take engines.... do you make your own engines?
Its a quiz - and I promise I will try to be nice to you. But then you might get sad - as I said before - Reality and Pakis dont get along well...
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Wiseguy, why are you so irritated ? This discussion was a celebration of the Agni II success, and no one here is denying that.
I thought "Paki" was a term banned on this forum ! I can think of many terms that would rile you up as well (shiva lingam kisser etc) , but I dont feel any animosity towards you and I hope you will not show any either.
This discussion was about Indian missile capabilities, operational missile arsenals. Pakistan has imported a good part of our "operation" missiles, just like India has. Agni III is not working out, they had already abandoned AGni IV, and now AGni V is what seems to be the prime objective. To make up for the news item says that AGni II can increase its range with a lighter payload. If its a lighter payload, then it cant be nuclear capable  so the range is still 2k km.
For the mean time we have missiles that have a larger range & are operational.
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May 21st, 2009, 05:38 PM
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Irritated ?
Me ?
I thought it was quite apparent that I was enjoying myself !
And I have not seen any rule agaist the word PAki.... Heck , I have seen you guys use the word yourself !!
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May 21st, 2009, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koozager
Pakistan has imported a good part of our "operation" missiles, just like India has. Agni III is not working out, they had already abandoned AGni IV, and now AGni V is what seems to be the prime objective. To make up for the news item says that AGni II can increase its range with a lighter payload. If its a lighter payload, then it cant be nuclear capable  so the range is still 2k km.
For the mean time we have missiles that have a larger range & are operational.
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Now back it up.
Most people outside of the land of pure know that Ghauri project was "imported" (?) and commissioned during benazirs rule. It is based on the Nodong II missile of North Korea.
Now is the time for next question:
Quiz 3: Which existing missile system is the Agni based on?
After that we can go over the one cryogenic fiasco that we faced. (And ultilmately had to build from scratch).
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May 21st, 2009, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*Shaz*~
If pakistanis and reality dont get along why bother coming on a pak forum? Why not go and troll with ur indian friends on indian forums?
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Is that your standard response when you run out of arguements ?
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May 21st, 2009, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wiseguyin
Now back it up.
Most people outside of the land of pure know that Ghauri project was "imported" (?) and commissioned during benazirs rule. It is based on the Nodong II missile of North Korea.
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yeah, we bought it/traded it, or w/e and it works.
you guys are trying to make more parts of it, and its not working.
In the long run local manufacturing is more desirable, but it takes time. But even India does not have a 100 percent local manufacturing, 25-20 percent of the parts are imported.
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