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Aug 19th, 2009, 02:39 AM
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India always cries whenever Pakista acquires any new weaponry.
Some Drones, some JDAMs some Block 52s and Cobras & NVGs are going to disturb the region.... BUT
MMRCA, nuclear sub marines, ICBMs, Phalcon AWACS and 126 Frontline fighers, Air Craft Carriers and god knows wat else wont disturb the regional stability.
Indians will cry even if Pakistan acquires one bullet.
India voices concerns over US drone sale to Pak
NEW DELHI: Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna has reacted to a possible arms deal involving sale of US drones to Pakistan. Krishna has emphatically told America that an arms sale would create instability in the region adding that in the past, such weapons have always been used against India.
Pakistan has drawn up a big list of military purchases from the United States. But, what's worrying India is that Islamabad is lobbying hard to get the deadly Predators Drones from the United States.
The worries of New Delhi are that any military equipment bought by Pakistan is essentially meant to be used against India, said Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna.
Pakistan is seeking Predator Drones from the United States saying they need the drones to fight militancy along the Afghan border. But, invariably the drones would be used along the Indian border both for spying and combat missions, he worried
A list has been drawn up and they include helicopters, night vision devices, laser guided ammunition.
Predator drones are particularly worrisome as they constitute top of the line technology. They are unmanned aerial vehicles with weaponry that can accurately hit targets. The United States is using them extensively for fighting militants, including in parts of Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province area.
India does not have anything equivalent to the predators and there is concern about India having them. Currently India is working to get an equivalent of the predator. This is the Harop system from Israel but it will be a long time before India gets them, he added.
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Aug 19th, 2009, 02:45 AM
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lol, seriously "they will be used against India". ROFLMAO. These people dont even have shame when they say stupid stuff like this.
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Aug 19th, 2009, 07:21 AM
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Why cant it be used against India...
Or is it that your esteemed armymen would not be able to change the destination of these drones since it has programmed to hit specific areas in SWAT..
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Aug 19th, 2009, 03:08 PM
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^^ so are you saying that India can acquire any weaponry to hit Pakistan but Pakistan cannot do the same?
And how exactly will these drones the balance of power in the region?
As compared to India's nuclear submarines, 126 State of the Art Fighter jets, Phalcons, AWCS, etc....
Whats next, Pakistan acquires one bullet and it will change the balance of power in the region?
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Aug 19th, 2009, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mercenary2k
India always cries whenever Pakista acquires any new weaponry.
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And Pakistan does the same when Indian acquires anything. This is standard strategy by both nations.
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Aug 19th, 2009, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA
And Pakistan does the same when Indian acquires anything. This is standard strategy by both nations.
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if you dont have any interest then why you reply?
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Aug 19th, 2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mercenary2k
^^ so are you saying that India can acquire any weaponry to hit Pakistan but Pakistan cannot do the same?
And how exactly will these drones the balance of power in the region?
As compared to India's nuclear submarines, 126 State of the Art Fighter jets, Phalcons, AWCS, etc....
Whats next, Pakistan acquires one bullet and it will change the balance of power in the region?
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bro nobody cares about it.. its news one day the next day its gone.. people forget it..
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Aug 19th, 2009, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Punjabee in USA
And Pakistan does the same when Indian acquires anything. This is standard strategy by both nations.
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riiiiight. It's always been "India Whining". weren't you guys pandering to Germans about the sub to Pakistan? how did that go?
lets not break a sweat over India's habitual trends...it's just more of the same. Infact it's a compliment if they wet their tighties over the littlest things Pakistan acquires. more power to Pakistan 
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Aug 19th, 2009, 10:23 PM
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P of USA is a troll guys
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Aug 20th, 2009, 03:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mercenary2k
^^ so are you saying that India can acquire any weaponry to hit Pakistan but Pakistan cannot do the same?
And how exactly will these drones the balance of power in the region?
As compared to India's nuclear submarines, 126 State of the Art Fighter jets, Phalcons, AWCS, etc....
Whats next, Pakistan acquires one bullet and it will change the balance of power in the region?
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As Punjabee mentioned the Indian Govt is just going through its motions only for the sake of it. It is just to tell the seller that India is aware of the going ons...
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Aug 20th, 2009, 03:07 AM
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bro nobody cares about it.. its news one day the next day its gone.. people forget it..
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Yes.Agreed 
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Aug 20th, 2009, 06:02 AM
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whats India crying about? Pak is going to use it against its own people
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Aug 20th, 2009, 11:45 AM
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Weapons are meant to defend agaisnt your enemies... If India insists on being Pakistans enemy, then the weapons will be used defend against them. Rightfully so.
Whats India all constipated over?!?! There Nuke sub is as mucha threat to the Pak and the region as this is im sure.
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Aug 20th, 2009, 12:39 PM
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There wont be another war between both for atleast next 100 years.
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Aug 20th, 2009, 12:41 PM
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Pakistan asking for drones and Pakistan getting drones are two different things. India is just making the usual noises, but I don't think this is going to materialize...
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Pakistan's Gillani Asks U.S. for Drone Technology, Other Military Aid - washingtonpost.com
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, July 22 -- Pakistani Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gillani on Wednesday called on the United States to provide real-time intelligence, unmanned aircraft technology and other military assistance to help his country combat the Taliban without relying on attacks from U.S. drones.
Gillani raised the issue with Ambassador Richard C. Holbrooke, who is on his fourth visit here since becoming the U.S. envoy to the region, according to a statement from the prime minister's office. Pakistan has asked before for the capability to carry out its own drone strikes, so as to avoid the public outcry that regularly follows attacks by U.S. unmanned aircraft.
The drone attacks in the tribal regions bordering Afghanistan "have seriously impeded Pakistan's efforts towards rooting out militancy and terrorism from the area," the statement said. Pakistan has cooperated with the U.S. drone missions despite its public position against them, and many Pakistani officials privately say that the attacks are helpful.
Analysts have expressed doubt that the United States would comply with Pakistan's request to share the drone technology. "America has been saying, 'This is one of those technologies that is a critical technology, and we haven't even provided it to other allies,' " said Talat Masood, a retired Pakistani general.
Weapons requests have long been a staple of Pakistan's relationship with the United States, but some diplomats said concern has increased after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton took steps this week to boost military sales to India. The measures could provide more than 100 U.S. fighter jets to Pakistan's neighbor and nemesis.
"What Hillary is doing there is probably again going to start an arms race," said one Pakistani diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Pakistan also raised concerns about other regional issues during Holbrooke's visit, such as the U.S. Marine offensive in southern Afghanistan, which officials here say could force more Taliban fighters across the border into Pakistan. But some played down the issue. "It's not really an irritant as such. But we do want to minimize any negative fallout in Pakistan," said Abdul Basit, a spokesman for the Foreign Ministry.
The greater concern among Pakistani intelligence officials and diplomats remains India. Intelligence officials said the military cannot pull more troops off the eastern border with India, a limitation that hampers plans to expand this summer's Swat Valley offensive into the tribal region of South Waziristan. During a briefing this week, Pakistani intelligence officials accused India of blocking the rivers that run from the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir into Pakistan, intensifying military exercises along the border, and training and funding insurgents in Afghanistan to launch attacks on Pakistan.
"We cannot afford to denude our eastern border," one Pakistani intelligence official said. "How can we really move forward?"
Indian officials deny the accusations and say Pakistan continues to nurture Islamist extremists who have carried out major attacks across South Asia in recent years, including in the Indian mega-city of Mumbai in November.
Basit, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, said that many in Pakistan think there are "double standards being pursued by the U.S."
"While on the one hand there is an appetite to help Pakistan in crushing militancy and terrorism, on the other hand there is no pressure being mounted on India to resolve the political conflict of Kashmir," he said.
Despite the criticism, several Pakistani officials said they see signs of hope in the Obama administration's emphasis on long-term economic development. Holbrooke announced Wednesday that $165 million in U.S. funding will be given to programs that assist Pakistanis displaced by the fighting in Swat.
Also Wednesday, Pakistan's Supreme Court ordered former president Pervez Musharraf to appear before the bench to answer questions about his decision in 2007 to oust dozens of judges, suspend the constitution and declare emergency rule. Musharraf, a retired general who now lives in London, could send a lawyer on his behalf. But the hearing has raised concerns about potential political volatility as the court considers criminal proceedings against Musharraf.
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Aug 20th, 2009, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Arleitter
There wont be another war between both for atleast next 100 years.
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Dont be so sure. With India sponsoring terrorism in virtually all its neighboring countries, someone's going to lose patience and very fast! 100 years is a long time.
Like Punjabee in USA said, it's India whining as usual. so lets not worry about it. 
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Aug 20th, 2009, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Med911
Weapons are meant to defend agaisnt your enemies... If India insists on being Pakistans enemy, then the weapons will be used defend against them. Rightfully so.
Whats India all constipated over?!?! There Nuke sub is as mucha threat to the Pak and the region as this is im sure.
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pfft. which world do you live in
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Aug 21st, 2009, 10:25 AM
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pfft. which world do you live in
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The one where you are suddenly banned.. Oops 
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Aug 21st, 2009, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Arleitter
There wont be another war between both for atleast next 100 years.
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Well cross your fingers... 
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Aug 21st, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Med911
Well cross your fingers... 
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who knows with Sri Lanka and Pakistan Army training together, it might be a prelude of things to come
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