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Sep 19th, 2009, 12:37 AM
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JAI MATA HINGLAJ KI
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2010-Paris,Normandy,Berlin(Bendlerblock)
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Sep 19th, 2009, 12:07 PM
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Soon to join the bottom of sea by either Pakisan or China and be a good attraction for scuba divers.

"Destiny is not a matter of chance; but a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for, It is a thing to be acheived."
-- William Jennings Bryan
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Sep 22nd, 2009, 09:00 PM
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^ underestimate Indian Navy at your own peril. Try to learn from past experience
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Sep 23rd, 2009, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jalaluddin
^ underestimate Indian Navy at your own peril. Try to learn from past experience
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Yes, an Indian " anti- submarine " warship INS Khukri was sunk by the very Pakistani submarine PNS Hangoor it was looking for.
and now Pakistan has even more deadlier, quieter and the most advanced submarines in South Asia.
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Sep 23rd, 2009, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aliph Ahmed
and now Pakistan has even more deadlier, quieter and the most advanced submarines in South Asia.
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.... till they blow themselves up 
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Sep 23rd, 2009, 03:54 PM
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Moderator Pakistan Affairs, World Affairs Forum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aam bandha
.... till they blow themselves up 
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PNS Hangor is a now museum ship.
Muslims are so good at dividing that they can divide the atom. If you see two Muslims, probably they belong to 3 parties. Al-Ghazali
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Sep 23rd, 2009, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mAd_ScIeNtIsT
PNS Hangor is a now museum ship.
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Like lot of Patton tanks....
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Sep 23rd, 2009, 04:27 PM
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Moderator Pakistan Affairs, World Affairs Forum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xephyr
Like lot of Patton tanks....
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Not really. The Hangor is in a museum by the country that used it.
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Sep 23rd, 2009, 07:27 PM
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Pakistan should get China to sell us the Sunburn Missile....
An extremely lethal anti-ship missile...that will deter the Indian Navy
Pakistan's thinking should not be to match India ship for ship but to build effective counter-measures like Anti-Ship Missiles
For those interested in reading about the Sunburn Missile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-N-22
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Sep 23rd, 2009, 10:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mercenary2k
Pakistan should get China to sell us the Sunburn Missile....
An extremely lethal anti-ship missile...that will deter the Indian Navy
Pakistan's thinking should not be to match India ship for ship but to build effective counter-measures like Anti-Ship Missiles
For those interested in reading about the Sunburn Missile
SS-N-22 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Pakistan Navy have purchased 120 C-602 long range anti-ship cruise missiles from china to counter the threat posed to the surface fleet of Pakistan navy by the Proliferation of Russian supersonic AntiShip missiles P-800 Oniks / Yakhont / PJ-10 Brahmos (Indian assembled version of Yakhont). Long range of the C-602 AntiShip missile will make sure that Pakistan Navy have first shoot advantage in case of an encounter with the Indian ships equipped with Russian Yakhont AntiShip missiles.巴已经得到了120枚C-602远程反舰导弹以对抗 印度的俄P-800 Oniks (印度组装版为BRAHMOS)导弹。C602的长射程会使巴海军在与印军的遭遇中获得先射优势。(别的网 站看了下,BRAHMOS最大射程290公里时,要在一万四,一万五高度巡航才行。如果全程低空,射程在1 20KM。)
The C-602 long-range subsonic anti-ship cruise missile is developed by the CASIC 3rd Academy. The C-602 outperforms most Western and Russian anti-ship missiles in terms of range and warhead mass. The YJ-62 was first offered for export by the China National Precision Machinery Import and Export Corporation (CPMIEC) during the Defense Systems & Equipment International (DSEI) Land and Naval Systems Exhibition in September 2005. The missile is fitted with a strap-down inertial guidance coupled with GPS, and active radar for the terminal phase. CPMIEC claims that the C-602 is fitted with a frequency agile radar seeker which offers greater resistance to jamming from targeted ship. The active radar seeker has an acquisition range of up to 40km.C- 602为CASIC3 院的项目,在射程与战斗部质量上,C602比大多数西方与俄国导弹有更好的表现。在2005年9月的DSE I展览会上首次公开。导弹使用捷联惯导+卫星定 位+末端主动雷达制导。CPMIEC 声称C603装备有频率捷变的雷达导引头,具备良好的抗干扰能力。对于目标的截获距离最大40 公里。
The C-602 is a conventional cruise missile design, with mid-body wings that deploy following launch. The fixed ventral air inlet is mounted slightly forward of the cruciform. tail fins. The missile is 6.1 meters long (without the 0.9 meter-long launch booster), and weighs 1,140kg. The solid propellant booster weighs an additional 210kg. The C-602 has a cruise speed of Mach 0.6, carries a 300kg HE blast warhead, is powered by a small turbojet, and has a stated range of 280km, with the missile flying at an altitude of 30 meters during the cruise phase of an engagement. In the terminal phase, the missile descends to a height of seven meters, and it can be launched from truck-mounted launchers, from warships as well as from medium multi-role combat aircraft.C-602 anti-ship missile employs a cylinder-shape launcher. C-602具有类似战斧的常规布局,发射后蛋翼展开。 固定的腹下进气口在十字尾翼的前端。导弹长6.1米(不包括0.9 米的助推)重量1140千克(不含助推,助推重210千克)。C602巡航速度M0.6,装300千克高爆 战斗部。装一小涡喷。射程声称为280千米(在 30米高度巡航,在末端降低至7米)。发射平台包括路基,海基(圆型发射桶)与空基。 以上只是C602,YJ-62猴版的数据,仅作参考。比如,使用X尾的YJ62在巡航和末端高度上有可能更低。 C-602的规格尺寸布局都和战斧类似,采用高高度巡航或作为陆攻导弹的话完全可以提高射程。下为印巴论坛上比 较普遍的观点:
Range is 280 km at very low altitude (10 to 30 meter for cruise and about 7meter in terminal flight )remember that due to MTCR range cannot be more than 300km, but if flight profile uses medium altitude like Russian /indian BrahMos than C-602 will be able to cover much more than 300km 280千米是掠海时的射程(10-30巡航,大约7米末端。)由于'导弹及其技术控制制度(MTCR)'射程不能超过300。但如果C602 使用类似于印度BRAHMOS的中高高度巡航,C602射程将会远超过300千米。
在 巴论坛也有说,280千米只是因为MTCR马虎眼,事实上(掠海)射程要更远。对比Kh-59MK, 59MK规格稍小一点,虽然发动机外挂增加了油量,但蛋体布局在长航程方面似乎并不如战斧这类导弹的布局, 掠海也达到了同样水平射程。所以本军盲觉得小巴 说的也有可能。当然,发动机耗油率也是个差别,毛子的更低些应该。。总之感觉YJ62是比较有潜力的蛋。。 。不光在射程
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All preparations are in place by PN well in advance for the mythical IN. 
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Sep 24th, 2009, 01:31 AM
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I'm no mystery! just another face
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[QUOTE=mAd_ScIeNtIsT;6824015] Not really. The Hangor is in a museum by the country that used it.[/QUOTE]
Well Said !
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Oct 5th, 2009, 02:23 PM
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mercenary2k
Pakistan should get China to sell us the Sunburn Missile....
An extremely lethal anti-ship missile...that will deter the Indian Navy
Pakistan's thinking should not be to match India ship for ship but to build effective counter-measures like Anti-Ship Missiles
For those interested in reading about the Sunburn Missile
SS-N-22 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Like everything else China makes, a copy of Russian missile.
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Oct 5th, 2009, 02:27 PM
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So that is how Pakistan spends the money US gives it to fight terrorist threats instead buying weapons agains India. Americans are such suckers!
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