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Oct 18th, 2008, 05:42 PM
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Buri baat zardari and nawaz shouldn't be victimized!
Why hasn't realdeal / spock gotten on your case by now? 
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Nawaz Sharif's crimes listed in Dawn: PML-Q issues ‘white paper’ against Nawaz -DAWN - National; February 13, 2008
Zardari's money was probably mostly in kick-backs outside Pakistan, some in Pakistan in other people's names therefore not easily traceable.
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Oct 18th, 2008, 06:47 PM
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^ That chargesheet is rich, considering the heads of the PML[Q] and 99% of the members in it were part of the same regime back then. Shaukat Aziz personally forgave the loans the chaudhry brothers took out.
Second star to the right and straight on till morning
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Oct 19th, 2008, 12:33 PM
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^ That chargesheet is rich, considering the heads of the PML[Q] and 99% of the members in it were part of the same regime back then. Shaukat Aziz personally forgave the loans the chaudhry brothers took out.
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Just because list was put together by PML-Q doesn't mean that we should discard it, we should take the list as they pull each others chaddies out in the public to our advantage.
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Oct 19th, 2008, 12:55 PM
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^ There were similar chargesheets against pretty much all parties before the elections. They are used to lure voters away, but I see it didnt work in this case  PML[Q] failed to win the 175 seats it was supposed to.
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Oct 19th, 2008, 01:18 PM
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^ There were similar chargesheets against pretty much all parties before the elections. They are used to lure voters away, but I see it didnt work in this case  PML[Q] failed to win the 175 seats it was supposed to.
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As it is very clear that our voters Mashallah don't care much about past corruption of "leaders", they think that it is "propaganda against innocence of their leader" so they just shrug these type of info off, but we being of educated-sort should value this information when supporting/opposing these people.
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Oct 19th, 2008, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ehtasab
As it is very clear that our voters Mashallah don't care much about past corruption of "leaders", they think that it is "propaganda against innocence of their leader" so they just shrug these type of info off, but we being of educated-sort should value this information when supporting/opposing these people.
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A chargesheet by PML[Q] against PMl[N] is basically a chargesheet against the PML[Q] itself  and I think the voters complied by not voting for the PML[Q] 
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Oct 19th, 2008, 07:03 PM
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A chargesheet by PML[Q] against PMl[N] is basically a chargesheet against the PML[Q] itself  and I think the voters complied by not voting for the PML[Q] 
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The chargesheet may seem to be against "PML-N" but if you look at most of the charges those are against Nawaz Sharif himself 
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Oct 19th, 2008, 08:54 PM
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The chargesheet may seem to be against "PML-N" but if you look at most of the charges those are against Nawaz Sharif himself 
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So why is it that none of the charges were considered worthy of being pressed, from 1999-2008, keeping in mind those coming up with these charges were the ones in power at that time. PML[N] is not just Nawaz, theres alot of other people in there, and it would be wrong to say the party didnt get victimized, people like Javed Hashmi who were jailed for some ridiculous charges (making fun of the army or some laughable charge) is a prime example.
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Oct 19th, 2008, 08:59 PM
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jisey hum sai milna, gawara nahee hai, hum sai mila na karey.....
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Oct 19th, 2008, 09:03 PM
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^ I saw these months ago...
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Oct 19th, 2008, 10:17 PM
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^ I saw these months ago...
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and and now its open for gen public to view 
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Oct 20th, 2008, 01:03 AM
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^^^ Exactly. Unlike Spock, we don't connections to power that to be
BTW, that house looks like highway motel that you might find driving on I 75 or I 95 in the US.
Life is a tale told by idiots... full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
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Oct 20th, 2008, 10:25 AM
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So why is it that none of the charges were considered worthy of being pressed, from 1999-2008, keeping in mind those coming up with these charges were the ones in power at that time. PML[N] is not just Nawaz, theres alot of other people in there, and it would be wrong to say the party didnt get victimized, people like Javed Hashmi who were jailed for some ridiculous charges (making fun of the army or some laughable charge) is a prime example.
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I don't care why the charges were not considered worthy of being pressed, may be they wanted to use charges for negotiations with NS. In 1990s I was in Pakistan and I read news items when NS got loans on some of his factories forgiven using his political pressure, import tax duty slashed to 0 when BMW loaded ship arrived at port and as soon as all BMWs were cleared duty went sky high again though BMWs for probably some other ministers but was still under NS govt. I don't want to run into circles, I have emphasised enough already that all these guys are crooks and corrupts and if I had power I'd have them all prosecuted.
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Oct 20th, 2008, 10:31 AM
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and whats so special about this farm house, looks to me just another farm house nothing different from that already exists in outskirts of Lahore, Islamabad, Karachi and Peshawar
and i am sure many on GS even more extravagant farm houses in Pakistan. some people just cant get over musharraf phobia.
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Oct 20th, 2008, 11:18 AM
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^^^ Exactly. Unlike Spock, we don't connections to power that to be
BTW, that house looks like highway motel that you might find driving on I 75 or I 95 in the US.
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To be exact Red Roof Inn 
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Oct 20th, 2008, 11:36 AM
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Oct 20th, 2008, 01:28 PM
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fake deal what about AAZ just one house in surrey? that has even a Air Strip
or a Shareef City in Raiwind?
or you want more examples?
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Oct 20th, 2008, 01:59 PM
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Mashallah. Ya Allah paak, yey ghar, jalnay walo ki buri nazar sai bacha kar rakh. Ameen, Suma Ameen.
" Judges give justice, not interviews" - Rana Bhagwandas, 21 March 2007.
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Oct 20th, 2008, 04:02 PM
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fake deal what about AAZ just one house in surrey? that has even a Air Strip
or a Shareef City in Raiwind?
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Don't forget Sharif's whole apartment building in London's most expensive street Park Lane? what's your point?
If your point is they are all as corrupt as each other, u would be correct
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Oct 20th, 2008, 05:36 PM
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and and now its open for gen public to view 
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It was never closed, maybe closed for the uninformed ones... I can show you pictures dating back to February, March.
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