Arabs are good friends of Pakistan, Iran always backstabs [split: Arabs hate us]

bitter_reality · Feb 3rd, 2009, 11:05 AM

Arabs have alwas been friends of Pakistan. Saudia and UAE gas gone as far as providing Pakistan with:

1. Free oil
2. Loan and aid without chargin interest
3. Providing unskilled workers of Pakistan with jobs ( Please note that no other country allows unskilled workers to immigrate to their country)
4. Economic Support to Pakistani Nuclear program
5. Aid during Natural disasters in Pakistan

Unfortunately, Some Pakistanies hate arabs and are pro Iran......the reason I don't want to mention.

Iran on the other hand has always back stabbed Pakistan examples are:

1. They tried to put Pakistan under pressure by exposing Dr A Q khan's name to AL BARADI. Pakistan transferred nuclear technology to Iran but Iran didn't keep it a secret and leaked the info to the world.

2. Political assasinations in Pakistan are often funded by Iran. Example : Assasination of former Governor of NWFP Gen. Retired Fazl Haq . The Irani counsellate Mullah Sadiq Ganji was directly involved and charged with murder.

3. Iran also started a baloch FM radio service and provoked tribal balochies against Pakistan.

4. Zahedan the city now in Iran was part of Pakistan and was twin city of Quetta....they were like Rawalpindi and Islamabad but Iran forced Pakistan during time of President Sikander Agha of Pakistan to let it go for Iran. The wife of Sikhander Agha was Irani by decent and sikander agha gave Zahedan as birthday gift to Shah Iran.

5. Iran does joint military exercises with India.

6. Iran always work against Pakistani interests in Afghanistan

Now , if you are patriotic Pakistani you tell me who is our friend?

Arabs .................or Iran?

omairhr · Feb 3rd, 2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bitter_reality

Arabs have alwas been friends of Pakistan. Saudia and UAE gas gone as far as providing Pakistan with:

1. Free oil
2. Loan and aid without chargin interest
3. Providing unskilled workers of Pakistan with jobs ( Please note that no other country allows unskilled workers to immigrate to their country)
4. Economic Support to Pakistani Nuclear program
5. Aid during Natural disasters in Pakistan

Unfortunately, Some Pakistanies hate arabs and are pro Iran......the reason I don't want to mention.

Iran on the other hand has always back stabbed Pakistan examples are:

1. They tried to put Pakistan under pressure by exposing Dr A Q khan's name to AL BARADI. Pakistan transferred nuclear technology to Iran but Iran didn't keep it a secret and leaked the info to the world.

2. Political assasinations in Pakistan are often funded by Iran. Example : Assasination of former Governor of NWFP Gen. Retired Fazl Haq . The Irani counsellate Mullah Sadiq Ganji was directly involved and charged with murder.

3. Iran also started a baloch FM radio service and provoked tribal balochies against Pakistan.

4. Zahedan the city now in Iran was part of Pakistan and was twin city of Quetta....they were like Rawalpindi and Islamabad but Iran forced Pakistan during time of President Sikander Agha of Pakistan to let it go for Iran. The wife of Sikhander Agha was Irani by decent and sikander agha gave Zahedan as birthday gift to Shah Iran.

5. Iran does joint military exercises with India.

6. Iran always work against Pakistani interests in Afghanistan

Now , if you are patriotic Pakistani you tell me who is our friend?

Arabs .................or Iran?

Because Pakistan Back Stabbed Iran, siding with USA, being everlasting obedient servants.

If we had a few sensible political leaders at the time of partition, we could've made a very strong block with Iran, India, China and Russia. Our 'brown sahab' didn't really like the idea!

Moonshiner · Feb 4th, 2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirch

O , o , I have one too.
Baluchistan has lots of oil under its ground, but Iran does not let Pakistan take it out. Why , because the slope of that oil is toward Pakistan if we start pumping all that oil out , Iran's oil wells will get dry. How is Iran stopping Pakistan to do so, that is beyond me. Someone help me.

It's because Iran has a spine; and Pakistan is spineless.

Moonshiner · Feb 4th, 2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bitter_reality

Iran on the other hand has always back stabbed Pakistan examples are:

1. They tried to put Pakistan under pressure by exposing Dr A Q khan's name to AL BARADI. Pakistan transferred nuclear technology to Iran but Iran didn't keep it a secret and leaked the info to the world.

Lying is haram. Iranians follow the Sunnah of the Prophet so they did the right thing by reporting AQ Khan.

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2. Political assasinations in Pakistan are often funded by Iran. Example : Assasination of former Governor of NWFP Gen. Retired Fazl Haq . The Irani counsellate Mullah Sadiq Ganji was directly involved and charged with murder.

Substantiate this with evidence or you are liar.

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3. Iran also started a baloch FM radio service and provoked tribal balochies against Pakistan.

Most likely in response to US/Pakistan support for Jundullah. Iran also has its own problems with Balochis. If they are now using Balochis against Pakistan, then kudos to them!

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4. Zahedan the city now in Iran was part of Pakistan and was twin city of Quetta....they were like Rawalpindi and Islamabad but Iran forced Pakistan during time of President Sikander Agha of Pakistan to let it go for Iran. The wife of Sikhander Agha was Irani by decent and sikander agha gave Zahedan as birthday gift to Shah Iran.

Again, substantiate this with evidence or you are a liar. Even if our former president gifted Zahedan to Iran, then it's our fault, not the Iranians. It's funny that you are ranting about this.

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5. Iran does joint military exercises with India.

6. Iran always work against Pakistani interests in Afghanistan

It's called geo-politics. Read up on it.

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Now , if you are patriotic Pakistani you tell me who is our friend?

No one is our friend.

bitter_reality · Feb 4th, 2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonshiner

Lying is haram. Iranians follow the Sunnah of the Prophet so they did the right thing by reporting AQ Khan.

Substantiate this with evidence or you are liar.

Most likely in response to US/Pakistan support for Jundullah. Iran also has its own problems with Balochis. If they are now using Balochis against Pakistan, then kudos to them!

Again, substantiate this with evidence or you are a liar. Even if our former president gifted Zahedan to Iran, then it's our fault, not the Iranians. It's funny that you are ranting about this.

It's called geo-politics. Read up on it.

No one is our friend.

I have given enough material...do you reseach yourself. I know from where this hate is coming from...the mullahs of irans have brainwashed you to an extent..that instead of defending Pakistan...you are more Loyal to Iran and defending iran against Pakistan.

I am a Pakistani and I won't defend any country's treachery towards Pakistan! Simple!

Moonshiner · Feb 4th, 2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bitter_reality

Cool down shah saab, Jafri Sahab.., Rizwi sahab..whateva..don't go beyond limits in defeding Iran . I have given enough material...do you reseach yourself. I know from where this hate is coming from...the mullahs of irans have brainwashed you to an extent..that instead of defending Pakistan...you are more Loyal to Iran and defending iran against Pakistan.

I am a Pakistani and I won't defend any country's treachery towards Pakistan! Simple!

You have not given anything, just lies. I don't listen to the Mullahs of Iran. I don't understand Farsi. I read about Fazle Haq. According to this:

Fazle Haq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is not even dead yet! Where are you getting this false information from?

Moonshiner · Feb 4th, 2009, 10:50 AM

I disagree with the thread title. What does treacherous imply here? To Pakistan, everyone has been treacherous: the US, India, Afghanistan, Arab countries, etc. If Iran does it, they are just joining the party.

ravage · Feb 4th, 2009, 10:52 AM

I set thread titles according to my perception of what the poster is saying, not to agree or disagree with it. but i'll edit it to say 'backstabber', since thats the word bitter_reality used, though its not far from treacherous.

Monk · Feb 4th, 2009, 11:04 AM

Now stop bashing iran.
none of arab county have borders with pakistan.
Arab country do have complains against each other.
like sirya and iraq etc.

ehtasab · Feb 4th, 2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonshiner

Lying is haram. Iranians follow the Sunnah of the Prophet so they did the right thing by reporting AQ Khan.

Where was haram/halal when they asked Pakistan to give them nuke technology? or was it halal to ask but haram to hide?

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Originally Posted by Moonshiner

Most likely in response to US/Pakistan support for Jundullah. Iran also has its own problems with Balochis. If they are now using Balochis against Pakistan, then kudos to them!

That proves the posters point that Iran is backstabber of Pakistan.

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Originally Posted by Moonshiner

It's called geo-politics. Read up on it.

That is also referred to friend of enemy is enemy. If Iran joins India then why would Iran be considered as Pakistan's "friend"?

Moonshiner · Feb 4th, 2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ehtasab

or was it halal to ask but haram to hide?

Exactly!

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That proves the posters point that Iran is backstabber of Pakistan.

Ah, so the US/Pakistan can support terror groups in Iran that undermine the Iranian government and Iran has no right to respond to this. Got it.

bitter_reality · Feb 4th, 2009, 11:57 AM

Proof that General Fazl Haq former Cheif Minister of NWFP was killed
Asia Times Online - The best news coverage from South Asia
para 6 from bottom.

The Iran Counsellate general was charged for his murder.

The bottom line....is

" Be a Pakistani not an Irani...Pakistan First!"

Stop supportin Iran caz of religious reasons!

Moonshiner · Feb 4th, 2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bitter_reality

Proof that General Fazl Haq former Cheif Minister of NWFP was killed
Asia Times Online - The best news coverage from South Asia
para 6 from bottom.

All right. That's the one and only source that says he was shot by a Shi'ite assassin. Shouldn't there be some information about this on the NWFP government's website? Maybe a tribute to him for his shahadat?

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The Iran Counsellate general was charged for his murder.

And where is the proof for this? This source:

Tehreek-e-Jaferia Pakistan,Terrorist Group of Pakistan

says that Sadiq Ganji was killed in Pakistan, never charged.

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Stop supportin Iran caz of religious reasons!

I didn't realize that being an agnostic means to support Iran.

bitter_reality · Feb 4th, 2009, 12:33 PM

I want dig every information for you. I am not your paid researcher. I did a favour to you already by giving your proof of his assasination. Do your work yourself! I am not here to spoon feed..do you own quest for truth.

Thanks

Moonshiner · Feb 4th, 2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bitter_reality

I want dig every information for you. I am not your paid researcher. I did a favour to you already by giving your proof of his assasination. Do your work yourself! I am not here to spoon feed..do you own quest for truth.

Thanks

Thanks for showing you have no proof and were merely lying. My research is showing that you were lying.

burqaposhx · Feb 4th, 2009, 01:04 PM

Arabs' hate vs. love
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This is not something universal. Pro-West Arabs (UAE) support pro-West Pakistanis stance.

Islamist Arabs on the other hand support Pakistani Islamists in order to burn, plunder, and destroy Pakistan.

Iran's hate vs. love
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When Iran was ruled by Shah, they were extremely wealthy and they were pro-Pakistan.

After the revolution, Iran became poor and anti-West, so they do not want to support pro-West Pakistan.

p.s. Each of the Arab country or Iran work for their benefit. Islamists Ummah is a farce just like Islamists' mutilated version of Jihad. Pakistan should not expect too much for any of them just because of Islamism.