hanibal

^^ So Now MQM also believes that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadyan was prophet from Allah... is this what you are saying???? kaheen syasi rasa-kashi maiN iman na kho dayna!!!!

Tell me What MQM thinks of Ahmadies??? Are they Muslims? is Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadyan Prophet? Can a Muslim believe on the prophet-hood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadyan or any other claiming to be the prophet??? what MQM says on this???

sandhu786

Exactly! There are 50+ muslim countries and in each of them anyone who will not accept Prophet(pbuh) as the last prophet will be declared non-muslim. What is wrong with accepting a different identity? I have never seen Ahmadis getting step-brotherly treatment in Punjab- where I come from or even in Karachi. Ahmadis, on the other hand usually don't marry their daughter outside their religion to muslims.

Bigboi

here we have memebers who even justify this! Disgusting! What have you done so far for your Prophet (saw). Do you think that he'll be waiting at the doors of Janaat and clap with his hands welcoming you
sahndu,

we don't marry our daugthers to! We don't marry our daugters to Non-Muslims. We don't marry them to jews and christians Pakistan, a muslim country?

Destino

Ahmadis are muslims. They believe in Islam and call themselves muslims. Islam is not a race like aboriginal.

test01

This usually is true for everyone. I don’t know if many Sunnis marry into xtians say. But marrying is a personal issue, how is it related to someone's human rights? Killing of Ahmadis by Sunnis is wholly unjustified and is an indication of the dark age that Sunni society has fallen into. This extremism is also hurting Sunnis themselves as well but so far they have been unable or unwilling to do a lot about it.

test01

I can understand the anger when someone tries to justify one's murder because they did not get to marry their daughters. What primitive ideology makes people think like that? This will make any reasonable person angry.

aam bandha

For your information .....

Sects and Cults of Christianity, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Moonies


This is a group of churches that may call themselves Christians, use the Bible as their Sacred Scripture, and may even have the name of Christ in the title of their church... but they say that "Jesus is not God", or that Jesus Christ is god as much as you and I are god, like the Mormons.

Aboriginal, unlike Qadyanies, is not a religious identification but more of an ethnic identification. You cannot "convert" to aboriginalism , just like you cannot "convert" to being a "pathan" ...... though you can convert to "islam" or "ahmedia" or "christinaity" .....

test01

Why would a Muslim want to claim to be a Christian?

You can however do that and form that point onwards you will be considered a Christian.

You obviously have not bee outside your hole otherwise you would know that religious freedom is such a natural thing in US and other western countries. Only bigots come up with stupidests of arguments to justify murder of innocent people.

You can do that. Its upto others to decide if they want to open their purse or not. But they will not persecute you...surprise surprise.

I don't know if they'll prosecute you..they'll probably laugh their heads off...Aborigines are not ugly

What? Hazrat Muhammad saw is their own prophet?

mercenary2k

who are you to assign someone as a muslim or a non-muslim?

Slickstar

lol.
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Khehkeshan

They're humans.

Personal belief of ahmedis is not the concern of MQM or anyone. They can think of themselves as muslims or martians.

Slickstar

thats not allowed bro.

hanibal

an illiterate like you who thinks that Pakistan was named ISLAMIC R|EPUBLIC bu zia should say that.. Just for your info.. Assembly of Pakistan have unimously declared these qadyanies as non-muslim as per their believe on Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadyan's claim for prophet hood...

Now you can say that, who is Prophet Mohammad (SAAW) to say that there will be no prophet after Him...and anyone whol claims prophecy is liar and imposter and likewise the follower of such person are Kafirs... but i guess your this claim is null and void... you go and do some study kidoo... as half of the time you don't know what you are talking about..

Slickstar

hmm, pot calling the kettle black

hanibal

iam not asking what ahmadies think of themselves.. iam asking what MQM thinks of them.. muslims or non-muslims???? a simple answer will do... let see if you can come up with any...

Khehkeshan

MQM thinks of them as the BEST muslims. Should I provide burnol or do you have some handy?

How do I know what MQM thinks of them? MQM is a party not a person, and as a party does not make such distinctions on personal faith.

hanibal

hahahahhahaha


i thought so... MQM actually has no grounds on any issue.. they just go with anything which suits them or their masters.... this is the case here..


Now tell me what do you think of people who believe that Prophet Muhammad (SAAW) is not the last Prophet... and there are more to come..

test01

This editorial from Daily Aajkal says it all.

Image is bit large, not sure how to make it smaller.

mercenary2k

A very juvenile comment. Pakistan was founded as a secular state by secular people.

But again you don't know this. As for Qadyani, who the hell is the Pakistani Assembly to assign who is Muslim and who is not a muslim. Is the Pakistani Assembly a religious institution? What credentials do they have to assign labels to people?

This is typical nonsense emanating from Pakistan. No Pakistani has the right to call any other person a non-muslim. Only Allah does.

Typical Nonsense emanating from you.

Does the Pakistani Assembly have the guts to label all Shia as Non-Muslims?

I am a sunni Muslim. But I will not go labelling other branches of Islam as Un-Islamic. Thats for Allah to decide. Not Us.

But that is a concept too hard for you to comprehend.

mercenary2k

A Valid Point.

Although I dont like the MQM. I think its a Mafia organization.