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Old Jun 20th, 2009, 02:40 PM   #1 (permalink)  
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Surprise surprise!

Turns out the 11 French Engineers were'nt killed by "Islamic radicals" ... but rather by government and military officials upset over unpaid bribes/kickbacks.

French engineers killed in Karachi because of kickbacks - Pakistan Spotter

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The al Qaeda track has been totally abandoned. Instead, the motive for the attack appears linked to the non-payment of bribes and commissions.






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Old Jun 20th, 2009, 03:01 PM   #2 (permalink)  
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possible, but too many open questions. will await details






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Old Jun 20th, 2009, 05:09 PM   #3 (permalink)  
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The French and their conspiracy theories. Never gets old. Too few details available to make judgment.






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Old Jun 21st, 2009, 06:03 AM   #4 (permalink)  
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Ofcourse Pakistani official killed engineers. Al qaeda terrorists are angels they don't kill people.......Come on man is ki ksr rh gai thi!!!!






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Old Jun 21st, 2009, 06:18 AM   #5 (permalink)  
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Seriously whats with you <edit>? Do you even check the source of the article? Its amazing with the internet everybody thinks all that is written is true.

Amazing isn't it that no credible news source has covered this. Nor as the French government commented on it. No some french lawyers sitting in Paris, their views counts. But the people on the ground they do not.

I honestly wonder how stupid you guys are.







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Old Jun 22nd, 2009, 01:09 AM   #6 (permalink)  
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Amazing isn't it that no credible news source has covered this.

I honestly wonder how stupid you guys are.
Hello, <edit>. Take your pick of credible news sources:

French Bombing Inquiry Takes a New Turn - WSJ.com
France 24 | Probe on French engineers? killings focuses on submarine money | France 24
French probe alleged Pakistani role in bombing | Reuters







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Old Jun 22nd, 2009, 01:15 AM   #7 (permalink)  
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All quoting basically the same sources. Logically it makes no sense to use a suicide bomber on an issue of kickback payments. You won't get back your kickbacks by killing engineers, all it will do is delay or even stop the project altogether. Plus there is the whole issue of motivating a suicide bomber to kill someone for kickbacks. Jihadists were involved at some level of this attack.







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Old Jun 22nd, 2009, 01:44 AM   #8 (permalink)  
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All quoting basically the same sources. Logically it makes no sense to use a suicide bomber on an issue of kickback payments. You won't get back your kickbacks by killing engineers, all it will do is delay or even stop the project altogether. Plus there is the whole issue of motivating a suicide bomber to kill someone for kickbacks. Jihadists were involved at some level of this attack.
What's wrong with the source? He asked for credible report, I gave him three.

Logic? Suicide bombers dont know logic. Suicide bombers are idiots lured by religion to serve political whims. And please dont tell me a jihadist needs to be motivated "to kill someone for kickbacks". A jihadist could care less. A bus load of frenchies is motivation enough.

The alleged plot is this:
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The memo, copies of which were shown on French media on Friday, says French and Pakistani officials connived to take bribes as part of the sale of the submarines to Pakistan.

It says France stopped paying the bribes after the 1995 election, won by Chirac, and that Pakistani officials kept asking for them for several years.
The allegation is that they eventually lost patience and organised in retaliation the attack on the bus full of French engineers, who were working on the Agosta submarine project.






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Old Jun 22nd, 2009, 03:15 AM   #9 (permalink)  
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so you are saying pakistanis killed the engineers working on strategic submarine project because some officials were not paid kickbacks...

amazing..






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Dang! And I always thought it was Santa.. Oh well!!!






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What's wrong with the source? He asked for credible report, I gave him three.

Logic? Suicide bombers dont know logic. Suicide bombers are idiots lured by religion to serve political whims. And please dont tell me a jihadist needs to be motivated "to kill someone for kickbacks". A jihadist could care less. A bus load of frenchies is motivation enough.

The alleged plot is this:
So, a jihadist killed them. Good, that means your news reports saying no islamist connection are wrong.






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