COLD_FIRE

Calling it a country is an insult.

COLD_FIRE

Pakistan ke jeld az jeld tukre kerne hain to aaiye, hum bhi aik province eejad krte hain...

Lafanter

looks good on paper but at this time we need unity and sincere leaders, adding or dividing wont make any difference.

Slickstar

looks good on paper? lol what are you guys smoking?

these are the same "provinces" that wouldn't let in refugees only a month back.

I propose the removal of all provinces and these bs borders that divide the country.

its one people, one nation. not 10 people, 1 nation.

niden

NO. If there is any need for more provinces, it is punjab the route cause of all problems in Pakistan should be divided in three parts. North, Central and South.

afishcurry

What's wrong with new provinces.. even in INDia creation of te more new province proposal has come to federl govt for considerations

lapak

The Punjabi esatablisment will never ever allow the creation of new provinces. Creation of new provinces mean the division of Punjab, and the end of eploitation of Pashtuns and other ethenicities including punjabis by establishment. The other day Gilani made it clear that it will never happen, Nawaz sharif termed it as conspiracy against Punjab.

The establisment have already divided Pashtuns into six units: NWFP, FATA, PATA, Baluchistan, Mianwali and Attock, While othere ethenicities stay in one unit like Punjab, Baluchistan and Sindh for sindhis. Estabisment knew from the begining that only Pashtuns are capable of challenging their position and that's why they have divided them into six units and not a single unit has the word Pashtun in it because it make their pants wet when they hear the word Pashtun. The establishment have also brainwashed Pashuns for the so called Jehadi causes.

Down with their twisted logic!

Anwer Pasha

You are quite right. Very true. Look my thread closed Give me the name of anyone from Punjab
nobody ready to hear truth.

Khehkeshan

This is at least partly true as pakistan has simply followed the policies of the British and is afraid to change the status quo. However renaming or changing the boundaries of the province have not done anything good for Sindh or Balochistan either, as we still suffer from colonialism by the land of the fiver rivers.

DD

Poros,
Jaypal
Ranjit Singh
Ahmed Khan Kharal
Bhagat Singh
Lala Lajpat Rai
Dulla Bhatti
Guru Nanak
Kabir
Data Gunj Baksh
Baba Fareed
Bahaudin Zakaria
Bulleh Shah
Sultan Bahu
Mian Mohammad
Shah Hussain

Allama Iqbal
Chaudhary Rahmat Ali
Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
Faiz Ahmed Faiz
Habib Jalib
Anwar Masood
Aitzaz Ahsan
Dr Samar Mubarakmand
Aziz Bhatti
Major Tufail Muhammad Shaheed
Captain Muhammad Sarwar Shaheed
Major Muhammad Akram Shaheed

Sawar Muhammad Hussain Shaheed
Lance Naik Muhammad Mahfuz Shaheed

And i did not include great sportsmen in the list so far.


Now give me names from Sindh, NWFP and Balochistan to match this list.

lapak

I will name few famous pashtuns whom you may be familiar enough through "Maghashrati Uluum":

Haider Ali of Misur (fought against the brits)
Fetheh Ali Khan or Tifu Sultan of Misur(fought against the brits)
Bekht Khan Rohilla(fought against the brits)
Nawab Salim ullah Khan(Founder of Muslim League)
Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad
Maulana Mohammad Ali Jauhar
Josh Malihabadi(poet)
Dr. Zakir Hussain (the third President of India)
Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi
Liagat Ali Khan
Bahadur Yar Jang
Najib-ud-daula
Sardar Addurab Nishtar
Ahmed Faraz(Poet)

Haider Ali, Tifu Sultan and Bakhat Khan were the few people in India who fought againt the Brits heroically.

Khehkeshan

How are they pushtuns? Did even any of them speak pushtu?

lapak

They were ethnically Pashtuns, I assume only Sardar Abdurab Nishatar, Ahmed Faraz and Dr. Zakir Husain Could speak Pashto. I just listed them because most Pakistanis are familiar with their names and all of them are from east of Indus River.

Anwer Pasha

Ohhh

Data Gunj Baksh
Baba Fareed
Bahaudin Zakaria
No one of them Punjabi by any means
Only they were here to perform their duty
One name only of a ruler/leader
Ranjeet Singh
Mubarik ho
For this slave of Great Britain

Anwer Pasha

Bahawalpur has a legal position to be a seprate province

marwati

imp persons frm pakhtunkhwa:

sardar abdul Qaum
syed ahmad shaheed
ajab khan afridi
fiqir of ipi
pir roshan
bacha khan
ahamd shah abdali
amir koror
khushal khattak
rehman baba
sher shah suri
shahabudin ghauri
mehmud ghaznavi
sultan illudin khilji
general bakht khan
and lot more

marwati

also hazrat daata ganjbakhsh, who was from ghazni, afghanistan

Captain1

So show me someone who is asking Punjab to be cut-down while asking areas to merge other areas into a smaller province to make it bigger, thanks.

For the topic:

My take is, as long as we have "more funding for higher populated areas" there is no way under-developed areas are going to be developed by dividing country into more provinces. First we need to take a second look at this allocation of funds then we can talk about whether more provinces are going to help the country or help the under-developed areas. Otherwise it will be just more bearaucracy, more administration for the same areas, more overheads than actual development.

DD

Captain Bhai people are saying exactly that

Quote:

MARWATI

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DD

Problem is that people with more funding do not want to relinquish that and even the provinces themselves do not agree on what basis the funding shud be done. Sindh want it on basis of revenue generation, NWFP and Balochistan wants it based on production of essential resources like Gas and electricity.

I belong to northern Punjab but i more than willing that funding of underdeveloped areas like Balochistan AND southern punjab SHUD increase. But then there is large section of Pakistani politics that feeds on ethnic mobilization and creating a victim mentality. Even the best funded areas of Pakistan keep vailing that they are being neglected.