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View Poll Results: Do you support creation of new provinces?
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YES
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54.29% |
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No
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45.71% |
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Jul 10th, 2009, 08:55 AM
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#61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DD
Captain Bhai people are saying exactly that
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Not really, it just shows one person asking for Punjab to be divided but it does not show same person asking for adding up parts to increase size of their province.
These are two separate persons, so it not count as 'hypocrisy', thats all I wanted to say.
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Originally Posted by DD
Problem is that people with more funding do not want to relinquish that and even the provinces themselves do not agree on what basis the funding shud be done. Sindh want it on basis of revenue generation, NWFP and Balochistan wants it based on production of essential resources like Gas and electricity.
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I agree, but that is causing problems in parts of the country where the area is providing country with money/resources but they are not getting anything in return, their areas are being neglected.
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Originally Posted by DD
I belong to northern Punjab but i more than willing that funding of underdeveloped areas like Balochistan AND southern punjab SHUD increase. But then there is large section of Pakistani politics that feeds on ethnic mobilization and creating a victim mentality. Even the best funded areas of Pakistan keep vailing that they are being neglected.
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Victim mentality is being fed by neglecting areas, not providing sufficient funding.
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Jul 11th, 2009, 06:10 PM
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#62 (permalink)
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Do you know the C.M. of Punjab SS has sent all his cream of beurocrats to Bahawalpur to stop the movement and he is giving them many facilities to stop this movement. Thank you Durrani.
Now Sheikh Rashid you can try for Pothohar province.
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Jul 12th, 2009, 12:42 AM
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#63 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lapak
They were ethnically Pashtuns, I assume only Sardar Abdurab Nishatar, Ahmed Faraz and Dr. Zakir Husain Could speak Pashto. I just listed them because most Pakistanis are familiar with their names and all of them are from east of Indus River.
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Ok, but just so it's clear, being ethnic pushtuns and cultural and lingual pushtuns can be two very different things. This can been seen in the attitudes and views of indian muslim and pakistani mohajirs of some or full pushtun origin vs. those closer to khorasan.
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Jul 12th, 2009, 11:48 AM
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#64 (permalink)
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Join Date: May 31, 2009 - 8:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Khehkeshan
Ok, but just so it's clear, being ethnic pushtuns and cultural and lingual pushtuns can be two very different things. This can been seen in the attitudes and views of indian muslim and pakistani mohajirs of some or full pushtun origin vs. those closer to khorasan.
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Here is the definition of ethnicity:
"An ethnic group or ethnicity is a population of human beings whose members identify with each other, either on the basis of a presumed common genealogy or ancestry"
So on the basis of the above definition, a Pashtun who adopt any culture or language is still consider ethnically Pashtun.
There is no such thing as ethnic Muhajir or ethnic Punjabi based on the above definiation.
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Jul 12th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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#65 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Captain1
I agree, but that is causing problems in parts of the country where the area is providing country with money/resources but they are not getting anything in return, their areas are being neglected.
Victim mentality is being fed by neglecting areas, not providing sufficient funding.
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When areas with higest budget allocaton cry victim mentality then it means they want to usurp the rights of others. I don't know if you are playing to tunes of MQM with that revenue generation crap thing, but that is an extremely weak position to take.
The one who isn't confused, does not, really understand the problem.
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Jul 12th, 2009, 09:11 PM
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#66 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DD
When areas with higest budget allocaton cry victim mentality then it means they want to usurp the rights of others. I don't know if you are playing to tunes of MQM with that revenue generation crap thing, but that is an extremely weak position to take.
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I am not just talking about "revenue", why is Baluchistan crying? What about NWFP?
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Jul 12th, 2009, 09:59 PM
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#67 (permalink)
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I didn't have the chance to vote in this poll, but I register my vote as 'NO'
No, to the creation of ethnically based provinces, we don't need to further stoke the flames of soobaism and give credence to separatist movements.
Also, Punjab should not be split to satisfy the anti-Punjab lobby. Give me ONE reason why this province, which has had the best administrative efficiency in Pakistan, should be split?
Creating no provinces will solve nothing, but further divide Pakistan and create inefficeinces by duplicating efforts of the already corrupt bureaucracy. What we need is an equitable distribution of resources amongst the provinces, additional support of backward areas, and greater autonomy within the federation.
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