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Old Jul 1st, 2009, 12:32 AM   #41 (permalink)  
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i agree with burqaposhx.changing the slogan to something more loving n positive will definitely make us more accepting n positive n we'll start accepting people from other ethnicities n religions n stop killing or terrorizing them or forcefully convert them
btw having a secular point of view doesnt mean u cant pray so
Pakistan ka matlab kiya, piyar mohabbat or dua is beautiful
do you really think so?

Pakistan ka matlab kiya, La Illaha Illalah... means what ? Is this slogan giving you a message to kill ppl from other religions? Do you know what are the rights of minorities in Islam?

As I said change the mentality first. You will change the slogan to ishaq mohabat and diwaangi and Paki nation will fall in love with whole world????.. cool point of view.







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Old Jul 1st, 2009, 12:34 AM   #42 (permalink)  
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Thank you.

You have correctly suggested that by "changing the slogan to something more loving n positive will definitely make us more accepting n positive n we'll start accepting people from other ethnicities n religions n stop killing or terrorizing them or forcefully convert them"

It is so true that if you have "a secular point of view doesnt mean u cant pray", or you can't be a God fearing person.



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You are living in dream world burqa. Wake up and come up with some REAL solution.






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Old Jul 1st, 2009, 09:00 AM   #43 (permalink)  
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Pakistan ka matlab kiya, La Illaha Illalah... means what ? .......
You should ALREADY know before posting this. Why are you asking from others.

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. Is this slogan giving [Talibleesi quom] a message to kill ppl from other religions?
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Off course. Where have you been living for the last 20+ years? Don't you read news or watch TV?


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..... Do [modern day Muslims] know what are the rights of minorities in Islam?
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Heck no!.

Again do not ask emotional (I-don't-know-heck-about-reality) questions. Just look around and see for yourself.

You do not have to go far. Just look in Pakistani areas from Khyber to Karachi and see how Quran and Hadees are being abused/misused or used from our mosques, madrassahs and by our Maulans for beheading, raping, pillaging fellow Pakistanis be them Muslims or non-Muslims.

Our Chrisitian, Ahmadi, and Shia minorities are being bombed, imprisoned, and their places of worship are in constant danger.

Even dead bodies and tombs are not safe. People claiming to follow "true Islam" are exhuming bodies and hanging corpses on the trees and poles.


And you still want to feign ignorance? Why brother why?







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Old Jul 1st, 2009, 06:14 PM   #44 (permalink)  
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do you really think so?

Pakistan ka matlab kiya, La Illaha Illalah... means what ? Is this slogan giving you a message to kill ppl from other religions? Do you know what are the rights of minorities in Islam?

As I said change the mentality first. You will change the slogan to ishaq mohabat and diwaangi and Paki nation will fall in love with whole world????.. cool point of view.
yeah the original slogan directly or indirectly points pakistan's only for muslims n people from other religions will be considered intruders n thats what happens foreigners are being killed n kidnapped in the name of islam so changin the slogan for the sake of peace wont hurt anyone n shouldnt be such a big deal if u want peace







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Old Jul 1st, 2009, 07:26 PM   #45 (permalink)  
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Do you think people are giving any importance to any slogan.
Not at all
People knew now
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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 01:18 AM   #46 (permalink)  
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So Burqaposhx, you normally get into debate which is an argument for the sake of argument, the moment the debate gets some objective you walk away or decide to ignore.. well this is sign of mind which only takes the ideas from people it is inspired and under no circumstances it accept that his idea can be wrong.. this is another version of talibanism, So burqaposhx is kind of Taliban himself, and all his hate against taliban is not because these talibans are mis-representing the name of Islam and Muslims or they are jeopardizing the State of Pakistan, he is only against them because he is other kind of exterimist who want to get ridof his opponent..

This mind-set is no better than of Exterimist selling religion of ethinic diffrences, these weak minds cannot imagine that they can be wrong and like the situation happend in this thread when Burqaposhx was asked some direct question which might have given us hsi views about Islam and Prophet Mohammad (SAW) he just ran away from the discussion and contiunes with his propoganda...







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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 02:04 AM   #47 (permalink)  
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You should ALREADY know before posting this. Why are you asking from others.



Off course. Where have you been living for the last 20+ years? Don't you read news or watch TV?



Heck no!.

Again do not ask emotional (I-don't-know-heck-about-reality) questions. Just look around and see for yourself.

You do not have to go far. Just look in Pakistani areas from Khyber to Karachi and see how Quran and Hadees are being abused/misused or used from our mosques, madrassahs and by our Maulans for beheading, raping, pillaging fellow Pakistanis be them Muslims or non-Muslims.

Our Chrisitian, Ahmadi, and Shia minorities are being bombed, imprisoned, and their places of worship are in constant danger.

Even dead bodies and tombs are not safe. People claiming to follow "true Islam" are exhuming bodies and hanging corpses on the trees and poles.


And you still want to feign ignorance? Why brother why?
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yeah the original slogan directly or indirectly points pakistan's only for muslims n people from other religions will be considered intruders n thats what happens foreigners are being killed n kidnapped in the name of islam so changin the slogan for the sake of peace wont hurt anyone n shouldnt be such a big deal if u want peace
You ppl are funny all I can say. You didnt deserve an independant country at first place. there is one good saying in urdu,. hope you know urdu, "Naach na Jaanay Aangan tera." This saying fits well on you and others like you. coz its only the slogans that made you kaafir haters otherwise you were angels.






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 09:53 AM   #48 (permalink)  
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yeah the original slogan directly or indirectly points pakistan's only for muslims n people from other religions will be considered intruders n thats what happens foreigners are being killed n kidnapped in the name of islam so changin the slogan for the sake of peace wont hurt anyone n shouldnt be such a big deal if u want peace

Good point Panthr3ss.

Both Hanibal and Fairytale have run out of arguments and now getting down to personal attacks.

That's a sure sign of their defeat.

Oh well, what's new in the world of JI.






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 12:15 PM   #49 (permalink)  
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You ppl are funny all I can say. You didnt deserve an independant country at first place. there is one good saying in urdu,. hope you know urdu, "Naach na Jaanay Aangan tera." This saying fits well on you and others like you. coz its only the slogans that made you kaafir haters otherwise you were angels.
easy..no need to get personal okay..u just proved it ,thats how the orthodox religious people behave,they think the liberal muslims r kaafir lol..try n put ur aggression to good use






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 12:17 PM   #50 (permalink)  
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Good point Panthr3ss.

Both Hanibal and Fairytale have run out of arguments and now getting down to personal attacks.

That's a sure sign of their defeat.

Oh well, what's new in the world of JI.
yea he/she dint have anything else to say in reply i guess..btw whats JI?






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 12:23 PM   #51 (permalink)  
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yea he/she dint have anything else to say in reply i guess..btw whats JI?

yeap. That's true.

By JI, I meant Jamat Islamia aka Orthodox nutz.






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 02:32 PM   #52 (permalink)  
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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 10:12 PM   #53 (permalink)  
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I agree with Hanibal & FT but to the point that manufacturing a new slogan is a shallow approach. The under lying problems in education, security and corruption will be not be affected with new slogans. Slogans might provide a focus for groups that feel disenfranchised but thats it.






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These empty slogans are why pakistan is drowning today.






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Old Jul 4th, 2009, 12:08 PM   #55 (permalink)  
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Burqa...shame on you...you ran away from the question. No answer till now.






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