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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 10:28 PM   #21 (permalink)  
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While i went over a few more videos over youtube, it seems most of these suicide bombers are 15 year olds. Why the hell don't they use their own kids for bombings.
he is buying children........ unbelievable how anyone can argue for any kind of compassion for this person.

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Baitullah Mehsud is buying children – as young as seven – to serve as suicide bombers, United States and Pakistani officials said on Thursday. A Pakistani official told the Washington Times the going price for child bombers was Rs 500,000 to Rs 1 million.






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 10:42 PM   #22 (permalink)  
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^what youve got to take into consideration is what is happenning to his people both sides of the border. these people are facing a genocide with no compromise in sight from the allies (israel, pakistan, america, uk, germany, australia, india +others)






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 10:57 PM   #23 (permalink)  
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^what youve got to take into consideration is what is happenning to his people both sides of the border. these people are facing a genocide with no compromise in sight from the allies (israel, pakistan, america, uk, germany, australia, india +others)
Wrong, they have bought this on themselves. Their goal is to spread their rule over all of Afghanistan and Pakistan, as stated by the nutcase jihadi in the video. No one is asking them to go fight in Afghanistan or anywhere. Their suicide bombings and attacks started way before anyone had even heard of drones or the Pakistan army had even gone into the tribal areas to stop their badmashi.

They are simply brainwashed mental cases. Important thing about the above video is the large role of punjabis involved in the jihadi movement.






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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:25 PM   #24 (permalink)  
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Old Jul 2nd, 2009, 11:37 PM   #25 (permalink)  
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khekshen your timeline is messed up, the critical date is oct 2001. you obviously want to fight because your leader from london wants a similar operation by your party/militia in karachi, you believe its an easy fight and will never come round to touch you, so fight you will, go ahead

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khekshen your timeline is messed up, the critical date is oct 2001. you obviously want to fight because your leader from london wants a similar operation by your party/militia in karachi, you believe its an easy fight and will never come round to touch you, so fight you will, go ahead

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What fictional timeline are you working from? We're not talking about your Awghanistan, but about Pakistan. No one forced Sufi soap into sending 1,000s of pukhtuns to their deaths from B-52 bombing runs in Afghanistan. No one forced Baitullah Mehsud to fight in Afghanistan or in Pakistan. He is doing this for his ego and his arab inspired ideology of kill kill kill. His ideology may seem popular now, but in the end people will tire of the killings and every last one of these jihadis will be hunted down like pigs in a pig farm.

And people run away from discussions when they know they have been outed and they have no facts to respond with.






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Old Jul 3rd, 2009, 01:36 AM   #27 (permalink)  
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Full interview of this crazy jihadi - must watch.

Siasat.pk • Jirga ? 2nd July 2009

Kill, kill kill! Jihadis have declared war on Pakistan, but still some amongst us have sympathy for them and want to get to the "root cause" or think talking to them will solve anything or if US leaves Afghanistan they will become nice peace loving people. Open your eyes and mind and listen to this shaitani man.






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who cares about NWFP or anything related to that region. It shouldn't even be part of Pakistan.






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who cares about NWFP or anything related to that region. It shouldn't even be part of Pakistan.
Will you build a wall around NWFP? And what about the Punjabi jihadi problem? Will you kick people from the north out of Sindh as well?






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Will you build a wall around NWFP?
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And what about the Punjabi jihadi problem?
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Will you kick people from the north out of Sindh as well?
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Old Jul 3rd, 2009, 02:49 AM   #31 (permalink)  
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^what youve got to take into consideration is what is happenning to his people both sides of the border. these people are facing a genocide with no compromise in sight from the allies (israel, pakistan, america, uk, germany, australia, india +others)
They are not "his" people, they are our people and he is the one doing the genocide on our people: the citizens of Pakistan. If you are talking about Afghanistan, thats a different discussion.

The IDPs and the actions of the ANP elected government make sure that there can be no confusion on this point. Local commanders of the army in FATA have been selected specifically from local officers. The ethnicity of the terrorists can not be their excuse neither does any ethnicity applaud the murders they commit.

bottom line is, Im trying to say ethnicity is irrelevant when talking about the Taliban.



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Pakistan consisted of imperial rule by the Punjabis of West Pakistan and now over the Pathans of the North-West Frontier province. This is no different from the British imperial rulers over the Indian subcontinent.
Infact, If the NWFP people (not Taliban) truly ever wanted to leave from the Pakistani union I would stand by them as revolutionary guerrilla war can be far more consistent with freedom principles than any inter-State war.
People do not wake up one day wishing they do not want to be part of Pakistan. Its something that grows over time where people see injustice, prejudice, discrimination, lack of representation etc etc.
how does that group of statements tie into this thread ?






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