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Jun 29th, 2009, 06:35 PM
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Read on for the butter truth and why pakistanis are so dazed and confused on the issue of taliban. What's good for others, is not good for us! No wonder Allah is punishing us by sending the khariji talibs.
Killed cleric's son: Some suicide attacks OK - CNN.com
Until and unless we let go of this attitude of violence against others being ok, we will continue to suffer at the hands of our own creations.
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Jun 30th, 2009, 12:28 PM
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Life is a tale told by idiots... full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
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Jul 2nd, 2009, 10:38 PM
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Thats just sad. His father died weeks ago(killed by a suicide bomber) and he still says suicide bombings are ok..............
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Jul 3rd, 2009, 03:08 PM
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"Then he told me suicide bombings in Afghanistan against U.S. and NATO troops are justified because they are invaders killing Muslims. "
Well, those US and NATO "invaders" would not have to be in Afghanistan if Taliban were not there waging "fasad" against Muslims.
That's the problem. Our common people still don't realize that US has no interest in staying in Afghanistan, and that it is "Zaliman" Taliban who are the main culprit.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=24532
Saudi charity funds al-Qaeda linked Pak terror outfits
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Jul 4th, 2009, 04:10 PM
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haha i wonder from which world people like khoji,burqaposh,khekhashan etc belong to...really funny stuff..
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Jul 4th, 2009, 10:29 PM
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haha i wonder from which world people like khoji,burqaposh,khekhashan etc belong to...really funny stuff..
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Yeah, what world do you belong to where suicide bombing is really funny and nice?
For a jihadi following the Syed Qutb school of thought there is no middle ground: if afghans are munafiq for allying with US and worth killing, so are Pakistanis. In fact Syed Qutb advocated the overthrow of local regimes who had diplomatic relations with the West before expanding the fight outward. This is the same thing the jihadi said in his interview on Geo: kill the traitors within our ranks first, no matter how many have to die.
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Jul 4th, 2009, 11:51 PM
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Immi should have have at least talked in detail with Sarfraz Naeemi's son before declaring suicide bombings has nothing to do with the extremist Islam being practiced by takfiris. He is so completely unaware of the reality of the neo-jihadi movement!
Extremism not linked to Islam, asserts Imran
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“No religion can allow suicide bombing”, he said adding that there is no solution to this problem in Islam as he termed the suicide bombing an entirely political issue.
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On one hand, mullahs are declaring suicide bombings halal against kaffirs, others are declaring it halal against "munafiqs", while great immi is saying it's not a religious issue but politics forces a person to kill himself and dozens of other people!
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Jul 5th, 2009, 12:30 AM
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I think the clerics son is saying that only attack against a combatant or armed force is justified and not the non combatant or civilian.
The one who isn't confused, does not, really understand the problem.
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Jul 11th, 2009, 09:58 PM
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i think mullah is a derogatory word and shud be avoided .................
i our real enemies are jews , india and other forces who are trying to exploit the FATA siatuation ....................
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Jul 12th, 2009, 12:35 AM
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i think mullah is a derogatory word and shud be avoided .................
i our real enemies are jews , india and other forces who are trying to exploit the FATA siatuation ....................
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Mullahs are a derogatory term for a reason. It's called a self inflicted wound.
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Jul 12th, 2009, 11:04 PM
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i think mullah is a derogatory word and shud be avoided .................
i our real enemies are jews , india and other forces who are trying to exploit the FATA siatuation ....................
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add altaf hussain to the list ...
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Jul 13th, 2009, 11:42 AM
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add altaf hussain to the list ...
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lols...........
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Jul 13th, 2009, 07:09 PM
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Until and unless we let go of this attitude of violence against others being ok, we will continue to suffer at the hands of our own creations.
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yea tough luck getting that across with loss of lives in drone attacks. our own creation pah
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Jul 14th, 2009, 12:06 AM
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yea tough luck getting that across with loss of lives in drone attacks. our own creation pah
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Drone attacks are a reaction to jihadi terrorism. You have to look at the root causes.
How do you like them apples?
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Jul 14th, 2009, 01:10 AM
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^circle of life. so in your opinion violence is only bad when done at the hand of suicide bomber but pretty alright if done by state?
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Jul 14th, 2009, 07:03 PM
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^circle of life. so in your opinion violence is only bad when done at the hand of suicide bomber but pretty alright if done by state?
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To stamp out terrorists, you don't use feathers, you use hellfire missiles.
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Jul 14th, 2009, 07:24 PM
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Civilian toll thus far just does NOT justify the usage of drones. The terrorists must be caught and punished by the state, and the state must utilize all its options but all efforts must be taken to avoid civilian casualties as well.
What was the count...98% civilian deaths compared to 2% terrorists? That's a damn shame.
As for the topic, The cleric's son needs a reality check. And quick...
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Jul 14th, 2009, 09:12 PM
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^circle of life. so in your opinion violence is only bad when done at the hand of suicide bomber but pretty alright if done by state?
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This is pretty lame excuse oft repeated by tribal Jihadis and their sympathizers.
Oh bhai, State ENFORCES the law, while a suicider BREAKS the law.
Don't you understand such a basic difference? What hath gone wrong with Thine?
Tomorrow you will equate the bank robber who tries to loot the bank, and the police officer who tries to protect the bank?
Do you even realize the reality of modern life? or you want to live in the primitive years of 50000 BC?
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Jul 14th, 2009, 09:20 PM
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^except state of pakistan has officially asked US to refrain from using drone for attacking since they cause more civilian loss of life. Having the technology to deal with these drone., the state of pakistan miserably fails to provide its civilians with teh basic right of protection. So while it all chummy to say we brought it upon our selves it is completely insulting to those who are effected by this state directed terrorism.
mordern life my foot, try to use these tactics in a modern coutnry and see how quickly that govt gets baked. precisely the lack of modern govt is why we are in this muck.
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Jul 15th, 2009, 12:15 AM
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Civilian toll thus far just does NOT justify the usage of drones. The terrorists must be caught and punished by the state, and the state must utilize all its options but all efforts must be taken to avoid civilian casualties as well.
What was the count...98% civilian deaths compared to 2% terrorists? That's a damn shame.
As for the topic, The cleric's son needs a reality check. And quick...
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That count is completely false. It's more close to 98% terrorist killed. Remember drone attacks are more precise than pak army going in and artillery shelling villages.
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