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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 04:17 PM   #1 (permalink)  
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I frankly cannot understand if they are really that dumb or just keeping an issue alive for nothing.

Kerry Luger is 24/7 on tv, every anchor trying to say, reject it. Just want to tell them, the clauses added to bill are for seurity related aid and not the 1.5 billion yearly aid.







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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 04:21 PM   #2 (permalink)  
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The great pain in arses of those who oppose are hate Zardari Mafia and the hate PPP mafia. Had this aid given to NS, Qazi Hussain Ahmad of JI or any dictator, they would have been given the status of prophets (nauzbillah).






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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 04:37 PM   #3 (permalink)  
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Have you seen last two apisodes of ' Meray Mutabiq'
Ohh what a program
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY MAD ANCHOR PERSON ANYWHERE ELSE?
Hai Doctor .
I advice you to please make Meera your co-host.
Mental level is same
but atleast she has some good face and voice.






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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 05:14 PM   #4 (permalink)  
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dont like it? dont watch it.







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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 05:38 PM   #5 (permalink)  
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Such news are easily manipulated by JI. They don't like democracy. They would rather prefer dictatorship.







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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 05:57 PM   #6 (permalink)  
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Pakistani Media is still maturing.

Free Media in Pakistan has only existed for a few years. The journalists they have hired are not professional enough.

They believe they should be against everything the government does as an irritant.

They do not believe in rational thought or what is best for Pakistan but sensationalizing everything.

It will take 10 years or so before the Pakistani Media finally comes to their senses.






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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 06:12 PM   #7 (permalink)  
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yes, at times the coverage is unprofessional, yes at times it is inaccurate, yes at times, it is nauseating...

but too much coverage is better than no coverage like the PTV of 90s and earlier... too much debate is better than no debate...

I detest few things as much as I detest that dangar daaktar Zahid Mossad and his verbal diarrhea and all the emotional simpletons who hang on to every word of his bakwaas... but I wouldn't even want him banned or censored.

I can only think one time when censorship was either warranted or even criminal charges were deserved. that was when the 3-4 brave commandos of Pak army were captured by Taliban rats. and produced before an idiotic reporter who was extremely rude to ppl who are heroes to the nation. made my blood boil. that clip should have been censored and that moron of a reporter should have been fired and jailed...






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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 06:17 PM   #8 (permalink)  
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Pakistani Media is still maturing.

Free Media in Pakistan has only existed for a few years. The journalists they have hired are not professional enough.

They believe they should be against everything the government does as an irritant.

They do not believe in rational thought or what is best for Pakistan but sensationalizing everything.

It will take 10 years or so before the Pakistani Media finally comes to their senses.

Yes Pakistani TV media is still maturing. No doubt about it.

However Pakistani media in general and the news papers in particular have had pretty much free hand for a long long time with few bumps in the road here and there.

The problem with Pak media is that it is 99.99999% leftist/socialist or Islamist or all of the above.

Thus it will mostly remain anti-West and anti-American especially.

The same leftist media will also continue to hinder the industrial and entrepreneurial, free market progress for a long time to come.

The current Kerry-Lugar Bill debate is clearly a manifestation of deeply entrenched anti-Americanism in Pak media.






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Old Oct 14th, 2009, 06:35 PM   #9 (permalink)  
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bandar k haath mein ladoo deyna fits well on some of these anchors






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Pak media may have been a reason why the bill has now been watered down through the explanatory statement read out by Kerry and Burmen. You guys should be thanking the media!






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Pak media may have been a reason why the bill has now been watered down through the explanatory statement read out by Kerry and Burmen. You guys should be thanking the media!

May be its media.

But more likely????????????


US will make sure their bill has the support of Kiyani.






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Oh it was most certainly Kiyani (he unlike others seems to mean a lot by saying little; loose moth McChrystal didn't help either before burning down); but media did manage to convey a sense of national indignation which made it easier for Kerry to come and make the concessions






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Old Oct 18th, 2009, 07:18 PM   #14 (permalink)  
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I have seen some comments about one compair Dr Shahid and if I could type urdu I must write like that. I am copying them for you here,
کواس بکواس بکواس. اگر آپ این آر او کے اتنے ہی مخالف تھے تو پی ٹی وی کو جوائن کرتے وقت آنکھوں پر لالچ کی پتی کیوں چڑھ گئی تھی؟ پی ٹی وی پر کام کرنے کے پورے عرصے میں آپکو این آر او پر تقریریں کیوں یاد نہ تھیں. اسوقت زرداری آپکو حاجی نمازی اور دنیا کا سب سے پرہیزگار آدمی نظر آرہا تھا کیونکہ اس نے اسکو پی ٹی وی کے سب سے اونچے عہدے پر بٹھایا ھوا تھا لیکن چونکہ وہاں پی پی پی والوں نے آپکی ڈال نہ گلنے دی اور آپکو پی ٹی وی چھوڑنے پر مجبور کر دیا اور پی ٹی کی سے باہر نکلتے ہی زرداری آپکے لیے دنیا کا سب سے کرپٹ آدمی بن گیا صرف اس لیے کہ اس نے پی ٹی وی کے معاملات میں آپکی حمایت نہیں کی اور آپکو اس سونے کی مرغی سے ہاتھ دھونا پڑے. اس پورے عمل میں آپکو نواز شریف کہیں کرپٹ نظر نہیں آتے اور نہ ہی آپکو اسکے منہ پر لگے ہوئے تالے نظر آتے ہیں. آپ صرف اپنے اندر لگی ہوئی آگ نکال رھے ہیں اور ہر وقت اس محرومی کا رونا روتے ہیں جو پی ٹی وی چھڑنے سے آپکے اندر رچ بس گئی ھے. آپ جتنی مرضی تقریریں اور جتنے مرضی پروگرام کرلیں زرداری آپکی تقریروں سے جانے والا نہیں. زرداری کے مخالف بھی اس خبطی آدمی کی فضول باتیں سنکر تالیاں بجانے کی بجائے پاکستان میں جمہوریت کو فروغ دینے میں تعاون کریں. جمہوریت لولی لنگڑی ہی سہی کم از کم آمریت سے ہزار درجہ بہتر ھے. آج کرپٹ لوگ حکومت میں ہیں تو کل صاف ستھرے لوگ بھی آ جائیں گے. اگر آپ جمہوریت کر پختہ یقین رکھتے ہیں تو اس گاڑی کو جیسے بھی چلتی ھے چلنے دو ورنہ ایک اور بوٹوں والا آئے گا دس پندرہ سال ملک کا بیڑا غرق کرے گا اور اسکے بعد جمہوریت کا آغاز ایسے ہی کرپٹ لوگوں سے ہوگا. دس پندرہ سال ضائع کرنے کے بعد ہم پھر وہیں کھڑے ہونگے جہاں آج کھڑے ہیں. عقلمندی کا تقاضہ یہی ھے کہ جمہوریت کو چلنے دیں اور فضول لوگوں کی باتوں سے پرہیز کریں. ان لوگوں کے اپنے اپنے ایجنڈے ہیں اور انکا ملک و قوم سے کوئی تعلق نہیں ھے. آج پارلیمنٹ موجود ھے، آپکے نمایندے وہاں بیٹھے ہیں، آپکے نمایندے آپکے علاقوں کے رہنے والے ہیں آپ انکے گریباں پکڑ سکتے ہیں. کل فوجی بوٹ آگے تو کون آپکی سنے گا؟ وہ مشرف جس نے دس سال تک اس ملک کو لوٹا اس پر تنقید کیوں نہیں کی جاتی. اصل مجرم کو چھوڑ کر بیساکھیوں کے سہارے چلتی جمہوریت ہی کو کیوں نشانہ بنایا جا رہا ھے؟ کیا پھر کسی بوٹوں والے کو خوشآمدید کہنے کی تیاریاں کی جا رہی ہیں؟ سوچیے سوچیے اور ٹھنڈے دماغ سے سوچیے کہ کہیں آپکو دوبارہ ٹریپ تو نہیں کیا جا رہا. کہیں آپکو کسی فوجی کا استقبال کرنے کو تیار تو نہیں کیا جا رہا. این آر او قابل ااعترض ضرور ھے لیکن اسکو بہانہ بنا کر جمہوریت کی بساط نہیں لپیٹی جا سکتی. جو بھی کام کیا جائے قانون کی حدود میں رہ کر کیا جائے تو کسی کو اعتراض نہیں ہونا چاہئیے. انصار عباسی کی باتوں میں بہت وزن ھے لیکن ہر کام کو کرنے کا قانونی طریق کار ھے. پارلیمنٹ کو حق حاصل ھے کہ وہ کوئی قانون پاس کرے لیکن اگر کسی کو اعتراض ھے تو عدالتیں آزاد اور موجود ہیں. اسمیں کسی بحث میں الجھنے کی ضرورت ہی نہیں. کائرہ صاحب کے دلائل بھی مضبوط تھے لیکن ان کو بات پوری کرنے کا موقع ہی نہیں دیا گیا جو کہ سراسر زیادتی اور غیر مہذب طریقہ کار تھا. اور آخر میں ڈاکٹر صاحب آپ جس تماشا ” جمہوریت ” ختم کرنے کی اور پردہ گرنے کی بات کار رھے ہیں وہ انشاالله کبھی ختم نہیں ہوگی






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Old Oct 27th, 2009, 04:29 PM   #15 (permalink)  
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No compare adressed today's biggest news about' King of Pakistan' as court ordered yesterday but .................................................. ...............................................
Where is Ansar Abbai, Hamid Mir, Kamran Khan. Bolta Pakistan, and Previously M.D./Chairman of PTV & later advisor to P.M.Gailani Dr Shahid ?
See this news from Daily Times today.

SC orders police to arrest Bahria Town’s Malik Riaz for murder

* Court told Malik Riaz coerces people into selling their land

Daily Times Monitor


ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court has directed police to lodge an FIR and arrest Bahria Town Chairman Malik Riaz Hussain, for the murder of a security guard

A three-member bench consisting of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, Justice Jawwad S Khawaja and Justice Ghulam Rabbani issued the orders while conducting suo moto action on reports of the murder of security guard Fiaz Ahmed, who was killed nearly a year ago.

The Sihala police station house officer told the bench that seven people had been arrested for the guard’s murder, but all had been released on bail. However, some people present at the hearing told the court that Malik Riaz coerced them into selling him their land, alleging that those that refused would be harassed with help from local police. The court was also informed that Malik Tabarik Hussain, who was also accused of Fiaz’s murder, was handed over to Sohrab Goth police in Karachi. The court also ordered the Islamabad district and sessions judge to submit a detailed report by November 26, and directed the Sindh inspector general to present Tabarik Hussain in court today (Tuesday).

Staff Report adds: The court directed a Sihala police official to record the statement of Shamraiza Bibi, Fiaz’s widow, in the courtroom and lodge an FIR against Malik Riaz for the murder of her husband. In her statement, she said that Malik Riaz was responsible for the murder of her husband. During the course of hearing, two citizens - Raja Qayyum and Habibullah - appeared before the bench and maintained that they were victimised by Malik Riaz, who had them beaten up by police because they would not sell Riaz their properties. They alleged that SHO Idrees Rathore and DSP Malik Mumtaz had kept them locked up for three months, forcing them to sell their properties to the Bahria Town chairman.






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Old Oct 27th, 2009, 04:56 PM   #16 (permalink)  
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Pakistani Media is still maturing.

Free Media in Pakistan has only existed for a few years. The journalists they have hired are not professional enough.

They believe they should be against everything the government does as an irritant.

They do not believe in rational thought or what is best for Pakistan but sensationalizing everything.

It will take 10 years or so before the Pakistani Media finally comes to their senses.
62 years of PTV brainwashing is what i read on this thread
nothing else
and u are right mercenary2k Pakistani media is not perfect and needs time to mature.
even they are under threat of the government and they have to watch what they say because the sword (government) is continuesly hanging on their head.

I think Pakistani media needs about 25 years to mature not less then that.
Like Pakistani media the Pakistani awaam also needs to mature (by education) because for past 62 years they have been brainwashed by the Pakistani government or dictators.







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\media still silent;
See this from Jang daily quite different from report printed in Jang Rawalpindi yesterday.






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Have you ever seen an anchour person talking against Altaf Hussain, Malik Riaz or other gangistors?
They only talk against PPP government and sometimes a liitle friendly against N$. ( Perhaps pressure for continuing.......)






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Have you ever seen an anchour person talking against Altaf Hussain, Malik Riaz or other gangistors?
They only talk against PPP government and sometimes a liitle friendly against N$. ( Perhaps pressure for continuing.......)
Mr. Pasha, anchors don't generally speak about personalities, they do, however, speak about policies and practices. One who is at the helm of affairs is normally one who is focused most. I have rarely seen , with some exceptions, anchors castigating Mr. zardari, or for that matter any other personality. Our Bias is what makes us too sensitive about what we don't want to hear otherwise.






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