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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 01:21 PM   #21 (permalink)  
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...and while we argue who did it and whom to blame ,plans are already in effect for the next big explosion.......
we know who did it...the TTP






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 01:56 PM   #22 (permalink)  
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TT is just disowning it due to killing of women, That is stongly against Pashtone traditions.






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 01:59 PM   #23 (permalink)  
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really anyone could have done it, pakistan has created the environment as such






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 02:01 PM   #24 (permalink)  
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TT is just disowning it due to killing of women, That is stongly against Pashtone traditions.
yeah ok buddy...






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 02:02 PM   #25 (permalink)  
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lets not forget to strengthen the green zone diplomatic enclave in islamabad, iraq did it, so should we. it is a signature of our failure as a nation






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 02:08 PM   #26 (permalink)  
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we know who did it...the TTP


i'm new to the pakistani political scene, TTP comprises off ???







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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 02:23 PM   #27 (permalink)  
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.................. The Taliban and al-Qaeda have denied involvement in the Peshawar bomb blast and said they do not explode bombs in bazaars and mosques. According to a statement of al-Qaeda, they are not involved in the killing of innocent people.
There is a possibility that TTP may not have done it but the above statement is totally a lie. They have already killed so many innocent people that the above statement is just a joke.

However, it is entirely possible that other elements like Lashker, RAW, Russian Intelligence, Afghan Intelligence, CIA and who knows who, might have done it.






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 03:09 PM   #28 (permalink)  
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^^ Yes, let's blame everyone and their uncle so that we can avoid facing up to our own monsters.






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 03:40 PM   #29 (permalink)  
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i'm new to the pakistani political scene, TTP comprises off ???
an umbrella group of all extremist groups in pakistan...who wish to bring the taliban style government in pakistan...

they were formed around 2006...they first took over Swat and the army forced them out....






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 03:56 PM   #30 (permalink)  
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an umbrella group of all extremist groups in pakistan...who wish to bring the taliban style government in pakistan...

they were formed around 2006...they first took over Swat and the army forced them out....
May I ,with all due respect Mr. Mercenary2k, ask you to please enlighten me as to what "Taliban Style Government" means to you. If I remember correctly an era of Taliban style Government was an era of peace for a country mutilated by a long war.






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 03:59 PM   #31 (permalink)  
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May I ,with all due respect Mr. Mercenary2k, ask you to please enlighten me as to what "Taliban Style Government" means to you. If I remember correctly an era of Taliban style Government was an era of peace for a country mutilated by a long war.
I much rather have the chaos of freedom than the totalitarianism of Talibanism

Watch this video of the lovely Taliban govt







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i'm new to the pakistani political scene, TTP comprises off ???

Ms. Sheyn TTP means " Timely and Trustworthy Phantom"

A war that is fought against a phantom can continue as long as the ideology to create the phantom exists. And Ms. Sheyn ideologies don't die even if creator for an ideology dies.






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^^ that ideology can be devastatingly reduced

case in point: Hitler and the Nazis...Khymer Rogue and Pol Pot....






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 04:12 PM   #34 (permalink)  
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I much rather have the chaos of freedom than the totalitarianism of Talibanism

Watch this video of the lovely Taliban govt


Quick as you are always Mr. mercenary, I salute to the soul of Hajaj Bin yousuf that you carry. For one real or fake video, we can devastate villages after villages, for one real or fake video we can kill thousands, and we can rape many.

we can keep thousands in prison with out any charges and we can burn to ashes hundreds of little girls, Mr. mercenary I salute your loyalty to an ideology of pillage, I bow down to huge political intellect which your small skull has to carry, just for bunch of ignorant like myself.

Keep refreshing your winter with the the heat that is burning houses in your neighborhood....keep enjoying.

God Bless you.






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 04:37 PM   #35 (permalink)  
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Quick as you are always Mr. mercenary, I salute to the soul of Hajaj Bin yousuf that you carry.
God Bless you.
Hajaj Bin Yousuf did, however, manage later in life (incidents in Mecca aside) to very successfully crush an attempted revolt by Khawarij, which is similar to what we face today.

Not to mention that it was Hajaj Bin Yousuf, not the Khalif, who dispatched his nephew Muhammad Bin Qasim to wage jihad against the rulers of Hindustan, which led to the first Muslim governance of Sindh.

Hajaj Bin Yousuf, not the Khalif, also dispatched Qutaibah bin Muslim, who was the first Muslim general to not only conquer but then establish Islamic rule in Central Asia.

If Mr Mercenary does indeed carry the soul of Hajaj Bin Yousuf, then aside from an attitude of cruelty, I expect that you assume that Mr Mercenary will also drive and sponsor others to establish lasting Islamic rule in far-off lands.







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[QUOTE]Hajaj Bin Yousuf did, however, manage later in life (incidents in Mecca aside) to very successfully crush an attempted revolt by Khawarij, which is similar to what we face today/QUOTE]

Hajaj Bin Yousuf managed to crush an uprising without the help of an enemy in the disguise of a friend. What we face today might have some semblance of what he faced but how he dealt with it is way different than how we have dealt with it so far.

[QUOTE]If Mr Mercenary does indeed carry the soul of Hajaj Bin Yousuf, then aside from an attitude of cruelty, I expect that you assume that Mr Mercenary will also drive and sponsor others to establish lasting Islamic rule in far-off lands./QUOTE]

Mr. Mercenary can only see cruelty perpetrated by those who he intellectually and politically disagree with. A Hajaj Bin Yousuf in him starts breathing only when nourished by a footage presented by liberal media.






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 04:58 PM   #37 (permalink)  
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Anybody who believes the lies peddled by the americans in all the wars of aggression it has conducted throughout it's history from the myth of defeating Hitler single handedly, to gulf of tonkin and all the way to Iraqi WMD as well fighting Al Qaeda in Afghanistan where doesn't even exist, is even more stupid...
Two such huge blasts were done in Mush's time, one in Karachi and another one in Rawalpindi. At least 200 people died and hundreds of people cripled due to these deadly blasts. The attack was aimed at BB, unfortunately BB was killed in the second blast. Baitullah Mehsood vehmently denied that these blasts were executed by TTP suiciders. Normally Taliban accepted many such attacks and claimed responsibility. For argument sake if it is accpeted that these three blasts (two in Mush's time) was not done by the Taliban, then who did it? This reminds me of a Hathorha group in malown Zia's time who killed many homeless in Karachi by hammering their heads to death of unfortunate people. That hathorha group never caught as it diappeared in mist. No one knows who were these b@stards, and it is still a mystry.

This is very scary and it looks like some inside job so that present government and Taliban both be affected. ek tir se do shikar. Who are these bast@rds, aastin ke saanp who has heart of stone can not feel the agony of so many innocent persons? It appears that a separate group of terrorists have been evolved, disguising themselves as Taliban, taking full advantage of this sensitive situation.


As usual JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK are silent on these blasts. Shame on them







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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 06:15 PM   #38 (permalink)  
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The attack points directly towards TTP with orders given by it's head Hakimullah Mehsud. It was perhaps in response to his home town of Kotai being taken control of by the Pakistani army last week. Hakimullah wants to use this attack to anger the Pakistani street against the government in the hope that there will be pressure for them to stop the offensive. He also reached out to the public 2 weeks ago saying India would be the next target after the Pakistani government is overthrown. Clearly a PR stunt. Playing with the public's emotions towards India to try and make some connection with them again with the hope that the public might put pressure on the government to stop the offensive.






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Quick as you are always Mr. mercenary, I salute to the soul of Hajaj Bin yousuf that you carry. For one real or fake video, we can devastate villages after villages, for one real or fake video we can kill thousands, and we can rape many.

we can keep thousands in prison with out any charges and we can burn to ashes hundreds of little girls, Mr. mercenary I salute your loyalty to an ideology of pillage, I bow down to huge political intellect which your small skull has to carry, just for bunch of ignorant like myself.

Keep refreshing your winter with the the heat that is burning houses in your neighborhood....keep enjoying.

God Bless you.
You are even stupider than I thought






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Old Oct 29th, 2009, 06:30 PM   #40 (permalink)  
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an umbrella group of all extremist groups in pakistan...who wish to bring the taliban style government in pakistan...

they were formed around 2006...they first took over Swat and the army forced them out....

I see.....and this is considered a branch of Al Qaeda or a Separate Entity of its own ?

I apologize for the silly questions, i'm just trying to educate myself in this through members here rather than reading media opinions.

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Ms. Sheyn TTP means " Timely and Trustworthy Phantom"

A war that is fought against a phantom can continue as long as the ideology to create the phantom exists. And Ms. Sheyn ideologies don't die even if creator for an ideology dies.

Now that concept I do understand.

Its not the person but the Myth that is created around them and their invincibility that perpetrates fear , anxiety and consternation and creates the false illusion of an omnipotent enemy .






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