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Nov 1st, 2009, 10:20 AM
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The ill fated citizens of this country have rightly focused their eyes towards to new born judiciary that it is the only organ after armed forces who will protect the country. It is quite right that universally it is the sole domain of the legislators to enact laws to protect the country but it is also a fact where the main responsible remains for certain obvious reasons sleeping then why can not say the judiciary act or do? If my neighbour house catches a fire while he is out, why can not I try to control the fire? After all if not controlled the same will soon reach my home too. Why should I remain as a silent spectator on the ground that controlling fire is the official duty of the Fire Brigade which is not reaching timely. Without going in detail as I know not merely the learned judges but even the common reader will understand what and why I wish to request to. When a foreigner (eg a Pakistani) gets the US nationality he takes oath of complete loyalty for his new adopted home which in simple unwritten words paints that in case the US for any reason at any time is at war against such a persons native motherland, he the new US citizen would fight with US against his old native home (in this case Pakistan). We have Pakistani origin US nationals every where as Ambassadors, as PMs, as legislators etc. As a citizen I pray His Lordship the Chief Justice of Pakistan that taking suo moto notice he may do something that in future anyone having foreign or dual nationality is not assigned or appointed in any Government related job in Pakistan eg ambassador, legislators, advisers, consultant etc. From a person who has taken such an oath if anyone of us expects even the remotest good for our motherland he is the biggest fool.
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Nov 1st, 2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by javed-m
I pray His Lordship the Chief Justice of Pakistan that taking suo moto notice he may do something that in future anyone having foreign or dual nationality is not assigned or appointed in any Government related job in Pakistan eg ambassador, legislators, advisers, consultant etc. From a person who has taken such an oath if anyone of us expects even the remotest good for our motherland he is the biggest fool.
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An excellent point  . This law should be passed in NA and becomes part of Pakistani Contitution.
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Nov 1st, 2009, 11:37 AM
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should we include people with substantial assets abroad too?
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Nov 1st, 2009, 11:43 AM
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^ or inside?
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=24532
Saudi charity funds al-Qaeda linked Pak terror outfits
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Nov 1st, 2009, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by javed-m
.... As a citizen I pray His Lordship the Chief Justice of Pakistan that taking suo moto notice he may do something that in future anyone having foreign or dual nationality is not assigned or appointed in any Government related job in Pakistan eg ambassador, legislators, advisers, consultant etc. From a person who has taken such an oath if anyone of us expects even the remotest good for our motherland he is the biggest fool.
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It is a well-intentioned ill-thought out suggestion.
In this global village of today, Pakistanis using their English language skills could move to other countries and end up acquiring local citizenship. Thus becoming dual citizens without being "dis-loyal" to either of the country.
Therefore a mere "dual-citizenship" should not be treated as "swine flu" resulting in ex-communication or exclusion from potential opportunities in either of the country.
The real check should be that person A is a "lawful" resident of country X, and as long as he/she is lawful, no doors should be closed on him/her (with few exception that may deal with really black programs or top-secret stuff).
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Nov 1st, 2009, 12:19 PM
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Agree with burqa here
The thread starter is wrongly assuming that all people holding dual citizenship are 'confused' or disloyal to Pakistan which is most certainly not the case esp. with those born in Pakistan
For those of us born and brought up in schools and colleges of Pakistan, our primary allegiance will always remain to Pakistan. Our parents and many family members still live in Pakistan
I agree though that all stake holders/politicians should be required to:
- bring all their loot khasoot back to Pakistan (Please no favours or NRO in future!) and
- declare their personal assets
before they are eligible to stand in a general election/hold a public office in Pakistan in future. This must be a mandatory obligation for everyone
Last edited by Reverse Swing; Nov 1st, 2009 at 12:25 PM..
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Nov 1st, 2009, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by khoji
^ or inside?
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What's wrong with having legally acquired assets in Pakistan?
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Nov 1st, 2009, 04:58 PM
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How easy it is to declare one set of assets "legal" and another set "illegal" by one stroke of pen?!
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Nov 1st, 2009, 05:36 PM
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in most countries you have to declare when you have a conflict of interest but i dont know how thats going to work in pakistan as nearly all politicians have declared that they dont even own a car, nevermind any business interests
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Nov 2nd, 2009, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by khoji
How easy it is to declare one set of assets "legal" and another set "illegal" by one stroke of pen?!
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Assets acquired through legitimate source of income after paying due tax liability as per the law are legal assets, doesn't matter if they are in the country or abroad. What is the confusion in that?
In most of the cases people who remain in some sort of power in Pakistan can not justify the assets they possess specially outside Pakistan with the legitimate source of income they have.
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Nov 6th, 2009, 07:47 PM
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yazdi:
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Assets acquired through legitimate source of income after paying due tax liability as per the law are legal assets, doesn't matter if they are in the country or abroad. What is the confusion in that?
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I guess there is no confusion anymore. hmm.
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