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      cant believe we have ppl like Anwar Pasha. someone soooo pro zardari... *shocked*

      pasha sahib wake up plz before its too late
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      Quote Originally Posted by bunty_bunty View Post
      To answer the question about How many sons does nawaz sharif have??....Nawaz Sharif has two sons; Hassan Nawaz and Hussain Nawaz. He has 2 daughters as well; Mariam Nawaz and Asma Nawaz.

      Hassan Nawaz as being discussed lives in London and operates business from there. Hussain Nawaz used to live in Pakistan until 1999. During the exile period, Sharif family had established a steel mill in Jeddah; which is currently being handled by Hussain Nawaz.

      I hope this answers your question
      Thanks for sharing. I read somewhere that Tahmina Dultana of 'My Feudal Lord' fame married one of the brothers just a few years ago. So I am hoping the Nawaz brothers have one wife each. And what about the daughters. I hope they don't spend their time ensconced within the four walls of the house, however palatial it might be.
      "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." US Declaration of Independence.

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      Quote Originally Posted by FairyTale View Post
      cant believe we have ppl like Anwar Pasha. someone soooo pro zardari... *shocked*

      pasha sahib wake up plz before its too late
      I am not pro Zardari . I am pro Pakistan.
      I am punjabi but not prp punjab.
      I know the real faces and hope you will know them very soon.
      Money can not fight a long.

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      how do u know the real faces?

      u r not pro pakistan if u are on zardari side.... sorry but thats the truth.
      Shak killS likes this.
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      Quote Originally Posted by FairyTale View Post
      how do u know the real faces?

      u r not pro pakistan if u are on zardari side.... sorry but thats the truth.
      These are people of Pakistan who are still voting for PPP.
      See results of GB and Quetta 1.

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      ppp died with BB. there is no ppp anymore.
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      Quote Originally Posted by goodname View Post
      Thanks for sharing. I read somewhere that Tahmina Dultana of 'My Feudal Lord' fame married one of the brothers just a few years ago. So I am hoping the Nawaz brothers have one wife each. And what about the daughters. I hope they don't spend their time ensconced within the four walls of the house, however palatial it might be.
      It was Shahbaz Sharif who had married Tahmina Durrani in 2005 i believe. Shahbaz Sharif has 2 wives presently (divorced one in 2000; Alia Honey). His first wife is Nusrat Shahbaz who he married with family consent and has 5 children with her. Hamza Shahbaz is their son who is curently MNA also.

      Nawaz Sharif has 1 wife. and just for ur info. Mariam is married with 3 children to Captain Safdar. Asma Nawaz is married to Ali Dar; son of Ishaq Dar.

      The women of Sharif family might be in 4 walls when they are in power; howver, who can forge their struggle in 1999 when all the male members were under arrest.

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      Quote Originally Posted by FairyTale View Post
      ppp died with BB. there is no ppp anymore.
      You are right but some people are committed to save this national asset. I too believe that President Zardari could not understand the the theme and romance behind PPP but we all have a hope to get it back. He has learned something now and hope to get the theme of party back.

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      I am sorry. A criminal will never be a national asset. If that is the case then Musharraf should be consider a national hero.

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      This time Ansar Abbasi tried to speak some truth.
      From The News
      The submarine kickbacks Pandora�s box reopened Saturday, January 02, 2010
      By Ansar Abbasi

      ISLAMABAD: The post-1996 probe into the Agosta submarine deal, which led to the removal of the then-Chief of Naval Staff (CNS) Admiral Mansurul Haq and a corruption reference against Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali Zardari, was an alleged cover-up to save many key officials of the Pakistan Navy, besides turning a blind eye to a controversial $550 million deal of minehunters signed in 1992 during Nawaz Sharif�s first tenure.

      Documents available with The News show grey areas that remained untraced, while a key naval officer of that time told The News the cover-up in the submarine deal was meant to save the skin of many in the Pakistan Navy and was done by Senator Saifur Rehman, who was only interested in fixing Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali Zardari.

      The most interesting aspect of the whole affair was the statement of the then-director general Naval Intelligence (DGNI), who was instantly turned into an example for others when he was recalled from an overseas course, retired prematurely, court martialed and harassed to keep his mouth shut.

      The documents show the naval authorities charged DGNI Commodore Shahid Ashraf of getting Rs 1.5 million from a naval officer, who was alleged to have got illegal gratification and kickbacks from foreign suppliers of naval vessels, etc., but made an approver against the DGNI, who had given to the authorities a list of naval officers who had allegedly received kickbacks but were never touched and promoted as rear admirals instead.

      According to a source, the DGNI knew too much and, therefore, he was silenced. The NAB sources also confirmed the existence of a Feb 17, 1995 letter issued by SOFMA (the French company that was involved in Agosta deal) that talked of making payment of $40,000 to each of four naval officers whose names were mentioned in the same letter. Instead of probing the four officers, each one of them was later elevated as Rear Admiral.

      A statement of the DGNI submitted before the Board of Inquiry (BoI) was explosive but was ignored. When approached, Shahid Ashraf owned all that he had stated in the documents available with The News, and offered to present himself before a commission to spill the beans and uncover the faces, who, according to him, were alleged to have done wrong but were never touched.

      According to Ashraf, the Agosta deal was never struck by Adm Mansurul Haq, who had actually received kickbacks after the award of the contract for its smooth implementation. Those who had received the kickbacks before the award of the contract, he said, were never formally questioned.

      In his statement, he had told the BoI: �It needs no emphasis that lions share of kickbacks was paid before the award of the main contract. I had received information as the DGNI that Adm SM Khan, R Adm IH Naqvi, V Adm AU Khan, R Adm A Mujtaba, R Adm Jawed Iftikhar had received gratifications in connection with the award of contract for Agosta 90-B, for favouring the Agosta 90-B submarine acquisition by the Pakistan Navy.�

      He also revealed: �Col Ejaz Ahmad was actively pursuing the interest of the contractor and obliging officers concerned from time to time. My sources had intercepted information that Mr DEVENSAY of DCN (French company) had issued instructions in the form of a letter to Col Ejaz stationed in Rawalpindi as agent of DCN to pay $40,000 each to following officers of the Pakistan Navy: a. Cdre Mushtaq Ahmed, b. Cdre Khushnud Ahmed, c. Cdre SV Naqvi, and d. Cdre Naveed Ahmed�. All of these officers were said to be members of the committee for evaluation of technical specification of onboard equipment.

      He stated: �A copy of this letter was shown to me by R Adm Sarfraz Khan during investigation by Col Zafar in the presence of the Commanding Officer (Cdr Qazi), Cdre Shahid Nawaz (DGNI) and Cdr Shafiq Ahmed, Registrar Naval Court of Appeals. The copy of this letter was marked to Zafar Iqbal, stationed in Washington as agent of SOFMA, who was arrested by FIA. Mr DEVENSAY had directed him to release an amount of $160,000 out of special fund in favour of Col Ejaz for payment to these (four) officers.�

      He also stated: �Cash pay-off to officers was discussed in the Command and Staff meeting held immediately on return of CNS (Naval Chief) Adm Mansurul Haq from France in early 1995. The CNC informed the members that Cdre Shahid Ashraf had called me (Mansurul Haq) in France and seriously upset me by reporting that foreign currency was to be doled out to some serving officers of the PN. However, the investigation remained inconclusive as the Chief of Naval Staff deemed it appropriate to abandon the investigation for reason known to him.�

      Shahid told The News he had shared the same information with the then-acting Chief V Admiral AU Khan.

      Shahid, in his statement dated Aug 23, 1999, also disclosed: �As far as I can recall, evaluation teams comprising R Adm IH Naqvi, R Adm Jawed Iftikhar and R Adm SA Mujtaba visited China, France, England and Sweden. This team recommended
      Swedish submarine as FIRST choice. Then another team comprising of R Adm AU Khan, R Adm SA Mujtaba, Capt Mushtaq Ahmed, Capt SV Naqvi and Capt Naveed Ahmed visited France, England and Sweden. Serious deliberation took place at Naval Headquarters to finalise the recommendations. Cdre Khushnud Ahmed (then DNWOP), Cdre Mushtaq Ahmed, Crde Naveed Ahmed (DSMM), Cdre SV Naqvi (then DSMO), Capt ZU Alvi (DNC) remained actively involved in the evaluation process with both the team visited abroad.�

      He added: �It should be noted that R Adm Mujtaba was made member of both the teams that visited abroad. The depth of his involvement in the contract before and after its award can be gauged from the fact that he went out of his way in supporting the inclusion of Capt ZU Alvi in the first project team in France despite the fact that Capt Alvi did not qualify the criteria laid for the selection of the project mission team. He had also persuaded the then-CNS (Naval Chief) to override the observations made by the intelligence against Capt Alvi ...�

      He revealed intelligence sources had also reported that Col Ejaz Ahmed, agent of SOFMA in Rawalpindi, had been in continuous liaison with the evaluation team and other officials in NHQ (Naval Headquarters) and MoD (Ministry of Defence). �I, as DGNI, issued certain instructions to impose restrictions on the agents of foreign firms getting involved in negotiations/agreement.� He noted the whole process to acquire submarines from France took place during the time of Admiral SM Khan, who remained Chief of the Naval Staff from November 1991 to Nov 1994.

      He also placed it on record that after he had protested against his �wrongful� retirement to the defence minister, a round-the-clock surveillance was placed on him; he was arrested on the orders of Cdre Rashidullah and detained for several days for recording of the summary of evidence while all other officers were free. �Several coercive measures were taken against me to force me into pleading guilty,� he added.

      According to Shahid, he was fixed on the basis of a statement of Capt Alvi, who became approver although there is no provision in the PN Ordinance or PN Rules for approver. Alvi, in his statement dated 17th of Oct, 1998, given under Section 337 of PPC before the additional deputy commissioner, Islamabad, had admitted to have received over Rs 4 million as illegal gratification and kickbacks from foreign suppliers and alleged to have paid some of the amount to Shahid and another officer Capt Liaquat Malik. Shahid said Alvi did not mention the name of many others whom he had paid heavy amounts.

      �The BoI (Board of Inquiry) may like to deliberate as to why did he make a statement taking only two names of officers who have been hurriedly tried, forced into pleading guilty and awarded harsh sentences,� the former DG NI said in his statement.

      Interestingly, the approver had admitted to have received kickbacks from foreign suppliers of naval craft, stores to Pakistan Navy and transfer of technology to the navy in return of favours shown to them by him in drawing up of contracts, negotiations, supervisions of constructions of sites and otherwise facilitating the contracts between the navy and the suppliers and manufacturers of such naval craft and stores and transfer of technology.

      Shahid, according to the charge-sheet served on him, was accused of having obtained money from Capt Alvi, who in all charges was in contact with the foreign suppliers, etc. One of the charges levelled against Shahid also talked of Capt Alvi to have received gratifications in MCMV project meant for the purchase of $550m worth Minehunter special crafts.

      According to the former DGNI, this project was finalised during Nawaz Sharif�s first tenure as prime minister but was never probed either by Senator Saifur Rehman, Pakistan Navy or by the NAB. Shahid said the cover-up in the submarine deal to save the skin of many in the Pakistan Navy was done by Senator Saifur Rehman, who was only interested in fixing Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali Zardari.

      Editor�s Note: Since it was not possible to contact all of these officers named or accused, The News would welcome their versions, if and when submitted for publication in these columns.

      Please also read this from my side

      Dear all,some more lines from one of the best seller book (13th editions)
      Book Name = Gaddar Koun
      Writer = Sohail Warraich
      Mian Nawaz Sharif talks about IHTASAB (Accountability) Page: 137.
      Hamara Ihtasab ka tareeka bilkul Ghalat thaa,hamein iss havaali sey Ghalat uksaya ghaya thaa. Fauj aur ISI ka ham par dabao thaa (key ham PPP aur BB key khilaaf istamal hoon).Jaan bhooj kar ham sey aisy ikdaam kar vai ghey,ta ki siyasatdano ka badnaam kiya jai.
      Mian Nawaz Sharif says (page 45):
      Journeelon ka kiya bharvsa hoota hey,ye tu maazi mein bhi Siyasat dano ko mar vaa tey rahein hein,ainda bhi mar va sakhtey hein.In Journeelon ni kabhi ain aur kanoon ki parvah nahi ki.inho ni jis ko chahy mar vaya,jis ko chahy jail mein band kar diya,mulk badar kar va diya.
      Remarks: from very own statment of Mian Nawaz Sharif,how they were used to malign PPP leadership,how the false cases were prepared and propaganda machinery involved to bring bad name to Politicians esp PPP leadership..

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      I have to see any evidence that says Benazir and Zardari did not take a portion of the deal.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CM View Post
      I have to see any evidence that says Benazir and Zardari did not take a portion of the deal.
      No evidence could be find to involve them. Rest N$ has said .read again.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mindstorm View Post
      I think it is the duty of the present government to investigate these assets held by Sharif family in UK and other countries. The stance of the present government is that they want political reconciliation, but as a I am the tax payer and it I suspect it is my money, who gave them the right to do this personal reconciliation with my money.

      Sharif family should should not be spared in the name of reconciliation, and answer with detail and proof about the origin of this money. Otherwise they should also be treated as criminals and attempt should be made to bring them to justice!!!
      All these pakistani politicians are filthy pigs, no one is clean here. But at least sharif family is not low life like Zardari or Bhutto family, Dakoos.

      Pakistan has two kinds of cancer, politicians and army.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raahi View Post
      All these pakistani politicians are filthy pigs, no one is clean here. But at least sharif family is not low life like Zardari or Bhutto family, Dakoos.

      Pakistan has two kinds of cancer, politicians and army.
      Go beyond 1947
      One was Lohar other was Deewan (Prime minister) of a Muslim state Juna Garh.
      One was getting education at US
      other was supplying g..... to Arabs

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      Quote Originally Posted by Anwer Pasha View Post
      Go beyond 1947
      One was Lohar other was Deewan (Prime minister) of a Muslim state Juna Garh.
      One was getting education at US
      other was supplying g..... to Arabs
      Bhutto was from a family that became land lords because they gave bath to pet dogs of their colonial masters, they all are low lives. Bhutto get educated in the US that's why he was a ghunda like Americans. He used to get journalists abducted, political rivals assassinated, papers banned.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raahi View Post
      Bhutto was from a family that became land lords because they gave bath to pet dogs of their colonial masters, they all are low lives. Bhutto get educated in the US that's why he was a ghunda like Americans. He used to get journalists abducted, political rivals assassinated, papers banned.
      You are welcome
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      Now read this old news again and try to find the the truth about these cruel people.



      November 3, 2005 Thursday Ramzan 29, 1426

      Govt allows Nawaz to visit London: Treatment of ailing Hasan Nawaz


      By Ashraf Mumtaz
      LAHORE, Nov 2: All members of the exiled Sharif family will go to London in a couple of weeks once the procedural formalities are completed, a spokesman for Mian Nawaz Sharif, Farrukh Shah, said on Wednesday.

      However, diplomatic sources told Dawn that by Wednesday evening, the Pakistan embassy in Riyadh had not received any instructions with regard to issuance of passports to the exiled former prime minister or any other member of his family.

      On the other hand, highly-placed ruling PML sources said that the Saudi government had confirmed that Mr Hasan Nawaz needed treatment abroad and that it was in the light of the Saudi request that President Musharraf accorded permission on humanitarian grounds.

      PML-N Information Secretary Siddiqul Farooq said in a separate statement after contacting the exiled former prime minister in Madina that so far Mr Sharif had not been given any official information about the issuance of passport. He said the party was waiting for the government to implement what Information Minister Sheikh Rashid had announced at a news conference.

      Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao told Dawn that while Mr Sharif would be issued a passport by Pakistan’s consul-general in Jeddah, he did not know whether the passports of the rest of the family members had also expired.

      He said in case the other family members also applied for passports, “We’ll see their applications”.

      Farrukh Shah said once the passport was issued, Mr Sharif would take about another week to get British visa.

      “Hopefully, the entire Sharif family would reach London by mid of November”.

      According to Mr Shah, the family members who would go to London include, Mian Nawaz Sharif, Begum Kulsoom Nawaz, Begum Shamim Sharif, Mian Abbas Sharif, wife Sabiha, sons Yousaf Abbas and Aziz Abbas, Hasan Nawaz, Husain Nawaz, Capt Safdar, Mariam Safdar and their children.

      He said that Eid holidays had started in Saudi Arabia because of which the issuance of passports would not be possible soon. And once the offices resumed work, the Pakistan embassy would take some more days to complete formalities.

      There are conflicting reports about the future plans of the Sharifs.

      Some party sources, who did not wish to be identified, “claimed” that once the Sharif family reached London, they would not like to go back to Saudi Arabia.

      “In Saudi Arabia, they are guests of the royal family, but in London the Sharifs have their own residences. And since in Britain they will have unlimited freedom of speech, the Sharifs will prefer to stay there rather than go back to Saudi Arabia till their return to Pakistan.”

      However, other sources close to Mr Sharif deny this impression.

      They say that the ex-premier may make trips abroad, but he will retain Jeddah as the centre of his activities. “He is not going to shift his base from Jeddah,” they said.

      They added that the situation would get clear in the days and weeks to come.

      It is said that many Pakistanis congratulated Mr Sharif while personally meeting him in Madina or through phone calls from various cities. In response, Mr Sharif told them that he had left all matters to Allah.

      Ahmed Hassan adds from Islamabad: “The decision by President Pervez Musharraf to allow Nawaz Sharif to visit London was purely on humanitarian grounds,” Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed told newsmen.

      He described the decision as an ample proof of the fact that President Musharraf and the government of Pakistan had no personal enmity with anybody, adding that the decision had been conveyed to the Saudi government to grant Mr Sharif permission to visit London.

      The Pakistani high commission in London would accordingly be directed to issue a new passport to the ex-premier.

      He cited the government’s past decisions of allowing Shahbaz Sharif and Asif Ali Zardari to visit Britain and the United States on humanitarian grounds for medical treatment.

      “England is a free country and Mr Sharif would be able to issue political statements from there,” the information minister said when asked if any restrictions had been imposed on the PML-N leader before he left the country of his exile.

      Hassan Nawaz is suffering from severe abdominal pain and currently under treatment at the King Fahad Hospital in Jeddah.

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