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- Apr 28th, 2012, 06:49 PM #1----
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It is strange that there is no discussion on Lyari operation here?!
Many people are getting killed there and per reports, the place looks like a war zone. People holding up there are armed with the latest weaponry including rockets and grenades.
PPP is being blamed by Lyariites for this operation which they consider unjust. Some of the leaders have given up their membership of the party already.
Who is the police fighting? Does it have to do with Zulfiqar Mirza's People's Amn Committee and alarming rise in extortion in the city?
- Apr 28th, 2012, 07:18 PM #2
It would be great if Karachiites could discuss more about this issue as it would help all of us who have no idea of the dynamics of the city to understand it much better. The situation there is not good and baffling (for non Karachiites), I think PPP has lost their last strong hold in Karachi as well. And some Baloch's are saying that the war against the Baloch have been extended to Lyari.
The other day PPP's MNA from Lyari Nabeel Gabol was attacked with grenades:
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- Apr 28th, 2012, 08:16 PM #3
most of the arrests warrant are issued for baloch ... CID is saying within next few days affected areas will be free of terrorists! (which i highly doubt)
but .. lets see what happens!!
- Apr 28th, 2012, 08:20 PM #4----
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MQM is doing this in liyari
I have been saying all along that everyone is terrorist in their own strong hold. Just like MQM does bhatta khori in most of the area of Karachi, PPP and ANP are not angels in and around their dominated areas. It is the war for resources b/w these 3 groups. MQM these days are reaping the fruit of their badmashi in past. Beside legitimate accusations, they get blamed for things now that hey did not do.
Hopefully now after seeing bombs and rockets going off in Liyari, many ignorant ppl will realize this. There is only one solution for Karachi. Politics free Police/law-enforcement agencies and I dont see this happening in near future.
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- Apr 28th, 2012, 08:37 PM #5
Why was Peoples Amn Committee formed (by Zulfiqar Mirza)? And has it served any benefit to PPP, as it seems that they have lost a lot of goodwill amongst their supporters in Lyari?
- Apr 28th, 2012, 09:05 PM #6----
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- Apr 28th, 2012, 09:11 PM #7
- Apr 28th, 2012, 09:49 PM #8
I agree with Decent all the parties are involved in this bloodshed!
- Apr 29th, 2012, 01:10 AM #9
- Apr 29th, 2012, 01:23 AM #10
The government is thought to be using this guy in carrying out the operation.
I am not a puppet: Arshad Pappu – The Express Tribune
And here's some more information of the proxy war
Proxy wars continue in Lyari | DAWN.COM
- Apr 29th, 2012, 02:16 AM #11
- Apr 29th, 2012, 02:20 AM #12
i was thinking to make thread on this topic,as i hv made related thredas to this one.
KARACHI: Indiscriminate crackdown on the warring gangsters in Lyari entered third-day on Sunday, Geo News reported.On Saturday the narrow lanes of Lyari remained a battlefield for the second consecutive day as fierce battles raged between gangsters and the police resulting in the loss of nine lives.The dead included the SHO of the Civil Lines police station. The pitched battles between heavily armed men and personnel of the Anti-Extremism Cell (AEC) have so far claimed 23 lives in two days.During the day, miscreants lobbed hand grenades and rockets at the police in which which two Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs) were damaged.The terrified residents of Lyari claimed that due to the operation, they had been confined to their homes and in the exchange of fire between the police and gangsters, bullets had entered their homes, forcing them to take shelter, and even sleep, on the floors of their houses.The residents attempted to launch a protest against the violence, and also hired a bus for the purpose, but when they reached Safi Lane in Baghdadi armed men opened fire and told them to move back to their homes. The people resisted, upon which the gunmen torched a mini-bus of route U-1 and also opened random fire, forcing residents to go back to their homes.SSP Mohammed Aslam Khan of the AEC, talking to The News, said that the police had already stationed their pickets in Lyari on Friday night but were forced to halt the operation because of the darkness. Early on Saturday morning, Aslam and his men once again entered Lyari focusing on Cheel Chowk in Kalakot, the stronghold of the gangsters.On seeing the police approaching, the gang war elements opened random fire and also fired rockets and lobbed hand grenades at them. A gunbattle ensued during which the police managed to apprehend Luqman and Sohail (brothers of well-known gangster Mulla Nawaz) in an injured state who later succumbed to their injuries. The police also recovered arms and grenades from their possession.SSP Khan said that those killed were wanted by the Lyari and Saddar Town police in cases related to murder, extortion, kidnapping for ransom among others. The police then moved further inside Lyari and another battle occurred in Sirya Gali, Chakiwara, where Wahid Baloch, belonging to the Baba Ladla group and wanted by the police, was also killed.According to the police, the gangsters had lobbed shells at them and also fired rockets on their APCs. Gunmen opened fire on the police from rooftops but the law enforcers were able to move forward and enter Afshani Gali, where they apprehended wanted gangster Shakeel 35 in an injured condition. Shakeel later died. He was wanted for numerous heinous crimes in Lyari, according to the police, and was the right hand man of Baba Ladla.Later, the gang war elements started targeting people in other parts of Lyari and injured several people in Agra Taj Colony and Niazi Chowk, including a woman, Naheed Bibi, 25, who was moved to Civil Hospital where she succumbed to her injuries.The miscreants had also injured people near Miraan Naka Pull, who were taken to CHK where one Mohammed Azam, a resident of Baghdadi, succumbed to his injuries.SSP Khan, confirming the attacks, said during the battle the gangsters had fired rockets and also lobbed hand grenades at Kalakot Police Lines due which five people were injured while some parts of Chakiwara police station were damaged.He added that to counter the miscreants, the police had called in reinforcements from District South, which included a police party of Civil Lines, including their SHO Fawad Khan. When Khan reached near Cheel Chowk in a police vehicle, armed gangsters fired a rocket which directly struck the front of the police van and hit the SHO who was killed on the spot. PC Malik Tasawar and Amir Hussain were injured in the attack.The martyred SHO was a resident of Gulshan-i-Iqbal. The funeral prayers of the deceased were held at the Garden Police Headquarters on Saturday night and were attended by the Inspector General of Police (IGP) Sindh Mushtaq Shah who commended the efforts of SHO Fawad Khan and expressed sympathy with his family.Later, the gangsters started targeting nearby localities to divert the police and fired several rockets in Hingorabad, Gul Mohammed Bhoja Street, Nullah Stop and other areas in which six to seven people were injured. According to the police, the armed men also fired some five to six rockets.When asked why the Rangers were not brought in, SSP Khan said that he had not called for Rangers support, as it is the right of the local police to call them in as a backup if needed. He added that until now, the police have managed to clear the area of Cheel Chowk and Afshani Gali from gangsters.Meanwhile, parts of Lyari continue to remain volatile. The exchange of heavy fire continues till late at night and RPGs were deployed against the police. SSP Aslam Khan claimed that that police have managed to control 65 percent of the area, while the remaining 35 percent will be cleared within the next day or two.Meanwhile, late on Saturday night, four armed men riding on two motorcycles came to Abal Chowk of neighbouring Kharadar and opened indiscriminate fire on people. Seven persons, identified as Akram, Shahzad, Raja Ameen, Mohammed Imran, Mushtaq, Yousuf and one unknown, were shifted to the CHK where an unidentified man succumbed to his injuries.In another late night development, police also found two tortured and bullet-riddled bodies while conducting a search operation in Cheel Chowk. The bodies were later moved to CHK. However, their identity could not be ascertained.Earlier, police had also found the bullet-riddled body of a woman near Gabol Park. Police said that the deceased was identified as Rukhsana a resident of the Miraan Naka area, and it seems that she became the victim of the crossfire between the police and miscreants. Till the time of going to press, Lyari continued to remain tense.
Crackdown on Lyari gangsters enters third day - geo.tv
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- Apr 29th, 2012, 02:25 AM #13A child asked God,If everything is already written in our destiny, then why pray? God smiled&said, because in few places I wrote "As u wish"
- Apr 29th, 2012, 02:51 AM #14
Its interesting to note that Zulfiqar Mirza who is thought to be behind the creation of PAC is no where to be seen now when an operation is going on against his group. This thing the gangsters also need to see is that every one just uses them and then at some stage gets rid of them when they are not of any use to them.
- Apr 29th, 2012, 07:40 AM #15
Lyari’s Baloch community rethinks support for PPP « Zia Ur Rehman Writes
Lyari has converted into a war zone where FC and police are using heavy weaponry and tanks there:
Lyari, one of the 18 towns of Karachi, is a Baloch majority area and the city’s oldest locality. The Baloch, who are among the indigenous population of Karachi, have traditionally aligned themselves with the PPP.
“Lyari has served as a veritable fortress for the PPP since its inception, and its poor but brave people have supported Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto, Asif Ali Zardari and all their nominees,” Jan said.He said the establishment had conspired to involve the Baloch people of Lyari in drugs and criminal activity because they were PPP supporters.
“They played an active role in the restoration of democracy in Pakistan,” he said. “The importance of Baloch areas of Lyari for the PPP can be judged from the fact that Benazir Bhutto had selected Lyari town for her wedding ceremony.”Law and order in Lyari has been worsening for the last decade. While criminal elements have destroyed its social fabric, the state has also largely neglected the locality. It is considered one of the most neglected in terms of state-funded development in education, health, sanitation and employment, residents complain.
“We have always proven our loyalty to the PPP but it has always given us body bags in return,” said Najeeb Baloch, a party worker from Lyari. Two of Baloch’s nephews died on October 18, 2007, when Benazir Bhutto’s rally was attacked at Karsaz. “The operation in Lyari was undertaken just to please a coalition partner – the MQM,” he said.
“Baloch are the indigenous people of Karachi and have been living here for the last 700 years,” said Akbar Hout, another political activist. “Unfortunately, they are being treated as enemies everywhere in the country. It seems that the government wants to compel the Baloch youth of Lyari to take up arms like the youth in Balochistan.”
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- Apr 29th, 2012, 08:09 AM #16There are two groups fighting for hold in liyari arshad pappu group and rehman daicait's group....rehman dacait'ss political afilliation was wid PPP there used to be banners all round liyari with pictures of zulfiqar mirza, nabeel gabol n rehman dacait were on it,calling rehman dacait as shaheed...its quite interesting why all this is happening in PPP's government at this point of time when they need votes....on other hand Uzair jan balouch was giving mixed statements sice long back indicating some would happen in future....
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- Apr 29th, 2012, 08:19 AM #17----
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As I understand , its a control war between different gangs . And these gangs may or may not be backed by political parties . Isn't it ?
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- Apr 29th, 2012, 08:25 AM #18
Basically a few years back peoples party raised a monster called people's Amn committee now they are trying to get rid of it, by employing some other monsters of the area. Basically after all this mayhem and blood shed it seems as if the control will shift from one gang to another.
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