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Transcript of interview with Pervez Musharraf
Editor's note: Pakistani leader Pervez Musharraf met with Monitor editors in Boston Sunday. Here is the transcript of the entire interview.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0910/p25s01-wosc.html
CSM: Let me start with a very warm welcome to President Musharraf on his first visit to The Christian Science Monitor. We are just delighted to have you here. We're also delighted to meet Foreign Minister Inam ul Haque, Finance Minister Shaukat Aziz, Information Minister Nisar Memon, Major General Rashid Qureshi. And finally, welcome to all the oth

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SM: Is India waiting for the US to verify that infiltration has fully stopped?

Musharraf: ...There cannot be a 100 percent guarantee of stopping infiltration. That guarantee is not possible because of the nature of the terrain there. But, everyone said, even the Indians themselves said that...infiltration has gone down, even though they didn't say that it has stopped.... Let's move forward, I keep saying. Let us not stop, let's move forward, let's initiate the dialogue, and things will keep moving forward.

I think their strategy is really to gain time...then, they want to hold elections in Kashmir. In whatever form they are going to declare them successful, and then they are going to say that: 'Kashmir dispute does not exist and that is all, thank you very much.' This is their strategy, probably, which is very clear to us".

Now the world must understand that this strategy will not work...so India should be told actually not to play games really, it can't be done...

What do you think of this PREDICTION opf Musharaff about Indias sham election & strategy ..is he right or WHAT?

Pakistani Tiger

Mush says:

The army in Pakistan is the most stable organization; [it] has the faith of the people of Pakistan. Whatever Pakistan suffers, the people run straight to the chief of army staff. "What are you doing? You take some action. You improve the situation..."


CSM: Do you see a long-term role, a political role, for the military in the security council?

Musharraf: No. The security council, another important thing to be understood is, that they will not have, repeat, will not have any executive or legislative authority. Executive and legislative authority rests with the prime minister and the assembly...

So the entire authority lies with the prime minister. But there is a requirement of checking him...So we will have an institutional method of checks...





Hit The Nail on Head

CSM: Is your view that those F-16s were in fact not repaid? Because there are those in the US government who say that that was actually repaid when they were not delivered.

Musharraf: They were repaid after I don't know how many years and if I told you the whole story, I don't know if you'd believe it.

CSM: Paid in soybeans?

Musharraf: Yes, and wheat – and in the most expensive manner. The soybean that we got was much more expensive than we could have gotten from Malaysia, and elsewhere. The transportation cost was maybe double the cost.

In fact, there was a time when – you won't believe it – but the F-16s that were ours, we were told that 'You'll have to pay demerit charges for them' – parking fees for these F-16s. Why are you demanding parking fees from Pakistan? We are asking you for the F-16s! This is one of the issues which every man in the street in Pakistan knows!

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IF VAJPAYEE HAD DARED TO SAY ANY OTHER HEAD OF STATE LIAR THERE WOULD BE WAR!!!

PAKISTAN LET BHARAT HINDUSTHAN LET GO WITH LIES ,CHEATING,THIEFERY,USURPING KASHMIR,etcEVERY DAY FROM ALL ITS NEWSPAPERS TO MILLION OF FANATICS HATE MONGERING SANGHI




Mush’s charges bring out the worst in Vajpayee
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WASHINGTON: Prime Minister Vajpayee’s accusation charging Pakistan’s military leader Pervez Musharraf of "lying" – virtually calling him a liar – has left experts on the region wondering where it will take the relations between the two countries to.

In the annals of public diplomacy between the two sides, there has not been an instance when the leader of one country directly accused another one of lying – a word that is banned in the Indian parliamentary lexicon. Not even at the height of the Indo-Pak wars.

But at a public meeting in New York on Saturday, Vajpayee not only accused Musharraf of lying but of "crossing all limits of lying." He did not even use the fig leaf of saying Musharraf doesn’t speak the truth.

Indian officials reiterated that the Prime Minister’s remarks are a result of Musharraf’s "multiple lies and distortions" from the time he took office and his "duplicity in exploiting every peace gesture made by India to further his career and hold on power."

"He lies, dissembles and distorts events for his convenience without any regard to facts. He is the one who began public diplomacy through grandstanding at Agra," one official accompanying the Prime Minister said, while listing Musharraf’s "perfidies."

Among the instances he cited: "Lying" about Pakistani infiltration in Kargil and arguing that Pakistani forces were not involved despite copious evidence; "Lying" about the presence of most of the 20 wanted fugitives in Pakistan including Dawood Ibrahim; "Lying" about not have committed to ending infiltration permanently.

US experts and interlocutors agree that Musharraf often pushes the envelope and treads a very thin line between fact and make-believe.

In fact, one anecdote that is often related in Washington in analysing Musharraf is an entry against his name from the graduating class book of his military academy. His Pakistani colleagues wrote about his habit of parting hair in the middle and joked he is "often in the habit of splitting hairs."

The hair-splitting, officials say, has become most acute in the debate about infiltration in Kashmir. Musharraf has been consistently saying, "nothing is happening on the Line of Control," suggesting that Pakistan can’t be held accountable for what happens on either side of the LoC, and that he will use that as a bargaining chip against India.

More recently, as he left New York after his controversial speech before the UN General Assembly, he challenged reports that President Bush had spoken to him about infiltration, although US officials in their briefings said clearly the matter did come up. The surmise now is that Musharraf was once again splitting hairs.

"Bush may have spoken to him about cross-border terrorism and the violence in Kashmir without using the word infiltration," said the Indian official, who now believes it is becoming harder for India to "deal with someone who has little credibility left."

US analysts say Musharraf’s diatribe against India at the UN and New Delhi’s return fire is a setback for peace in the region. "Pakistan has taken a giant step backward by bringing out all the old complaints and going back to the plebiscite question. They have brought out the worse in India too," says South Asia scholar Stephen Cohen of the Brooking Institution.

Cohen however believes both sides could "turn on a dime" if they want to. The key issue now is the imminent war against Iraq and how it would impact on India and Pakistan.

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PakistaniAbroad

yes.. only in Pakistan a shameless Army and it's shameless head would let it slide to cling to power over people who are easier to manage under the dunda

Gymnasophyst

P.A.


Its very hard to believe Indians even when the time comes to trust for settlement or peace.

There is whole scheming propoganda against pakistan & muslims .Everybody talks of Madarsah & Pakistani school history but Indian versions are are far from truth.


] Ramzi Binalshibh, wanted by Germany for allegedly planning and helping to carry out the Sept. 11 hijacked plane attacks on the United States, has been captured in Pakistan, U.S. officials said on Friday.
. 11 Figure Binalshibh Captured in Pakistan
Fri, Sep 13, 2002


Imagine if Bush had chosen Atal over Musharaff...


Atal & bush would be just wringing there hands together !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Only b/c of Musharaff war on terrorism is success so far........... K:

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Shamraz Khan

Yep, his just a self-praising dictator. Nothing more, nothing less!!

Pakistani Tiger

YAWN

Can you give one example Musharraf prasing himself?

Pakistanis: Won't do anything. Won't let anyone either

PakistaniAbroad

PT u must be talking about the Pakistan Army.. won't do anything themselves and won't let anyone do anything either. No wonder the country remains in a status quo after 55 years of independence and still crying for people in kahsmir, bosnia, iraq and palestine rather than focus on the injustices at home.

Pakistani Tiger

Nope. I wasn't talking about Pakistan Army. I was talking about the people of Pakistan, who won't do anything.


Can you tell me one what we gained in 11 year of Democracy?

You name it man!

Gymnasophyst

P.A.
Your point is 1/2 correct


yes domestic injustices are just as important & even more BUT you still need to give full support to who everis dealing with full throttled crticism name calling & even worse ridiculing & name calling by foreign hostile countries press.ITS THE PEROGATIVE OF ADVERSARY TO BRING YOU YOUR COUNTRY & YOUR PREZ DOWN <and hopefully evey citizen of each county realise that before bringing there grievences & dirty linen in public.

Gymnasophyst

P.T. you maybe RIGHT
CHINA TAIWAN

S.Korea SINGAPORE (HONG KONG)

In the recent times, there exist no state that achieved prosperity through democracy starting off poor and backward.

The ones that that achieved prosperity through non-demcratic means can now make a smooth and effectuive transition to one: South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, China etc :sleepy2:

The reasons are not hard to find. The freedoms associated with democracy becomes too wild for a population, that is uneducated, unindustrialized etc. You put instability on top of that, you have no chance



So even though i dont like dictatorship ,autocracy.Martial law permanently ,butcan tolerate for now like a bitte medicinee