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Old Jan 14th, 2006, 03:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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For Fictional reads - existentialism kind of stuff -

Books by Camus:

Erm, I thought Stranger, and The Plague were really good ones. He writes really simple - and it always leaves you with a hybrid of these smilies --> and
Stranger left me mor e:-/







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Old Jan 27th, 2006, 09:49 PM   #32 (permalink)
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"ZAAVIA 1 & 2 " by ashfaq ahmed....dunno whther to call it a philosophical book or not ..but it does give a dynamic insight into a simple routined life explaining very small things that we normally neglect..certainly an eye opner for me !







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Old Mar 9th, 2006, 03:12 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Providence and the Problem of Evil by Richard Swinburne.-Its real gud.
The Puzzle of God by P.vardy-Real gud2







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Old Mar 9th, 2006, 03:19 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Qur'an....Y'll should try it...will open your eyes..
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Old Mar 26th, 2006, 04:08 AM   #35 (permalink)
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After Virtue by Alasdair MacIntyre is my favourite book.

Donot read it if you are a liberal modernist because the book is a merciless attack on your strong but unargued set of beliefs.

MacIntyre contends that the contemporary liberal modernist culture is in many ways an outcome of what is called as "the Enlightenment Project" - a project of descartes, Jume, Kant and many other modern philosophers to find a rational grounds for secular morality by giving up teleological mode of traditional morality as in Classical, Muslim, Christian, Hindu societies. Since the project was a failure and the failure was announced very loudly by Nietzsche, the contemporary modern culture turns out to be Darkness and Ignorance.

After repudiating liberal-modern moral theories and values, MacIntyre informs us that we are left with only two choices - Nietzsche or Aristotle. On one had, we can reject morality altogather, appealing only to natural passions and derives, some idiosyncratic and capricious, some social and universal bvut wild. This is the alternative to which Nietzsche point out. On the other hand we can undertake the arduous task of reevaluating and ultimately modifying the modernists' turn against teleology and attempt to reconceive morality along lines similar to Aristotle's, Thomas Aquians' and Averros'.

MacIntyre opts for Aristotle and eventually Thomas Aquinas.

MacIntyre's attack on liberalism is so severe that there is harldy any contemporary philosopher that so far has been able to defend it, not even Rorty. Descartes rejected "tradition" but MacIntyre revives it in a way that Descartes & Co. appears helpless.






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Old Mar 26th, 2006, 04:22 AM   #36 (permalink)
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After Virtue by Alasdair MacIntyre is my favourite book.
Donot read it if you are a liberal modernist because the book is a merciless attack on your strong but unargued set of beliefs.
MacIntyre contends that the contemporary liberal modernist culture is in many ways an outcome of what is called as "the Enlightenment Project" - a project of descartes, Jume, Kant and many other modern philosophers to find a rational grounds for secular morality by giving up teleological mode of traditional morality as in Classical, Muslim, Christian, Hindu societies. Since the project was a failure and the failure was announced very loudly by Nietzsche, the contemporary modern culture turns out to be Darkness and Ignorance.

After repudiating liberal-modern moral theories and values, MacIntyre informs us that we are left with only two choices - Nietzsche or Aristotle. On one had, we can reject morality altogather, appealing only to natural passions and derives, some idiosyncratic and capricious, some social and universal bvut wild. This is the alternative to which Nietzsche point out. On the other hand we can undertake the arduous task of reevaluating and ultimately modifying the modernists' turn against teleology and attempt to reconceive morality along lines similar to Aristotle's, Thomas Aquians' and Averros'.

MacIntyre opts for Aristotle and eventually Thomas Aquinas.

MacIntyre's attack on liberalism is so severe that there is harldy any contemporary philosopher that so far been able to defend it again, not even Rorty. Descartes rejected "tradition" but MacIntyre revives it in a way that Descartes & Co. appears helpless.






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Old May 30th, 2006, 02:03 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Specially share Electronic Books if u hav
In whatever format but if it is in PDF format
that will be more appropriate...






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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 07:14 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Following are some of the books which have verygood philosophical chapters related to the focus topics of these books, as their titles indicate:
Current systems in psychology : history, theory, research, and applications
Exploring consciousness
Handbook of diagnostic and structured interviewing
Handbook of psycho educational assessment : ability, achievement, and behavior in children
Intoxicating minds : how drugs work
Islam and modernity : Muslim intellectuals respond
Liberal Islam : a source book
Pakistan : eye of the storm
Pakistan : founder's aspirations and today's realities
Real-life math : everyday use of mathematical concepts
Risk stratification : a practical guide for clinicians
Women claim Islam : creating Islamic feminism through literature
Women in Muslim societies : diversity within unity
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I have found that many of us have very sound philosophical backgroud. Partly your own, but certainly some part of that knowledge must have come from books, internet sites and other sources.


Do share your favourite books/works/sites that are worth a read. It may be original works or commentaries, classical or modern, historical or utopian....
do add a few words on your own thoughts as well.


I'd be very interested to know what others read and I'm sure others will profit much from it as well.






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Old Jul 13th, 2006, 07:38 PM   #39 (permalink)
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http://www.icsfp.com/Media/Newslette...AugSep2005.pdf

http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/quran/qms.pdf

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~dss4/plumwood1.pdf









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Old Jul 18th, 2006, 08:29 AM   #40 (permalink)
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The Divine Comedy, written by Dante Alighieri between 1308 and his death in 1321.

The Divine Comedy is composed of three sections Inferno (Hell), Purgatorio (Purgatory), and Paradiso (Paradise), composed respectively of 34, 33, and 33 cantos. The first cantica, Inferno, is by far the most famous of the three, and is often published separately under the title Dante's Inferno. As a part of the whole literary work, the first canto serves as an introduction to the entire Divine Comedy, making each of the cantiche 33 canti long. The number 3 is prominent in the work, represented here by the length of each cantica. Also, that they add up to 100 canti is not accidental. The verse scheme used, terza rima, is the hendecasyllable (line of eleven syllables), with the lines composing tercets according to the rhyme scheme ABA BCB CDC . . . YZY Z.

The poet tells in the first person his travel through the three realms of the dead, lasting during Holy Week in the spring of 1300. His guide through Hell and Purgatory is the Latin poet Virgil, author of The Aeneid, and the guide through Paradise is Beatrice, Dante's ideal of a perfect woman. Beatrice was a real Florentine woman whom he met in childhood and admired from afar in the mode of the then-fashionable courtly love tradition.

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Another Good Book
Beyond Good and Evil By Friedrich Nietzsche.

http://www.mala.bc.ca/~johnstoi/Niet...devil_tofc.htm






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A short history of world by H. G. Wells.






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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 06:17 AM   #43 (permalink)
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A movie called 'what the bleep we know'.ther is another documentary in 3 discs to explain the concepts in the movie by the name of 'what the bleep we know, the rabbit hole', Its religion and philosophy explained in terms of science.






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Old Oct 31st, 2006, 06:21 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Amovie called'what the bleep we know'
To explain the concepts in this movie there is another documentary in 3 discs'what the bleep we know'down the rabbit hole'
its philosophy and science blended together






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Old Jan 26th, 2007, 11:56 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Greek philosphy is one of the famous philosphy around. Socretes i believe is one of the greatest with wisdom and philosphy. I believe he was actually a prophet and he preached through philosphy.






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Old Feb 2nd, 2007, 05:53 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Greek philosphy is one of the famous philosphy around. Socretes i believe is one of the greatest with wisdom and philosphy. I believe he was actually a prophet and he preached through philosphy.
^ There's no instance in history which gives a hint that Socrates was a Prophet. Yes, he was a learned man and a master of different contemporary philosophical sciences.

It should be argued that the role of Socrates in history has been largely inflated due to Plato's reverance for his master and partly due to over attention paid to Greek Philosophy by Western scholars till to date.

If you read Plato's "The Republic", you would notice that Socrates had dialogues with different personalities of his time on intriguing issues. Many scholars hold that these are not Socrates' own words, rather these are Plato's words which are articulated in the language and diction of his master.

Also remember that Socrates was more good at articulation and less at genuine arguing. Or should I say that he was more a player of words than a proponent of philosophical labyrinths. He could logically prove that it is day when it was night, and night when it was mid-day, and no one could possibly counter his arguments.

If you ask my opinion, among Socrates, Plato and Aristotle, I hold Aristotle in high esteem and regard him more learned and wise then both of his predecessors.

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Old Feb 5th, 2007, 10:06 AM   #47 (permalink)
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but if you deeply study the Life and Character of Socrates its quit diffrent than Plato and Airstotle, Plato infact took what Socrates taught later and managed to get his thing going.







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Old Feb 5th, 2007, 04:16 PM   #48 (permalink)
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but if you deeply study the Life and Character of Socrates its quit diffrent than Plato and Airstotle, Plato infact took what Socrates taught later and managed to get his thing going.
My remark is the outcome of considerable study of Socrates and his contemporaries. I don't want to dive so headlong into ancient philosophy that I end up undersestimating medieval chunk, as mistakingly done by Western scholars for ages till to date.

Yeah each one of them is quite different from one another. Socrates was mentor and teacher of Plato. Plato respected his master so much that many of his ideas and works are articulated in Socrates's language [as I already said above] and thus, were wrongly associated with Socrates. This point reduces Socrates' intellectual height to quiet an extent.

Plato refined and then added alot to Socrates' works, but as I said, Aristotle was one step ahead of both of them in identifying, formulating, conceptualising and articulating pure philosophical structures based on sound reason and accurate logic. Be it known to people that this does not preclude Aristotle from making mistakes, sometimes extremely grave.

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An excellent read.
I recall reading that during my teenage years. Brilliant. But also anti–Islamic (simply a warning to others who may wish to venture down this path).

I’d recommend: Colonialism/Postcolonialism by Ania Loomba. A well–written introduction to, and account of, colonialism and postcolonialism, their relevance in today’s world, and issues related to these (sexuality, racial divisions, capitalism, globalisation).







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Old Aug 30th, 2007, 12:04 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Another Good Book
Beyond Good and Evil By Friedrich Nietzsche.
I like your taste.

Also, The Antichrist by Nietzche.
The God Delusion- Richard Dawkins.
Brave New World (Huxley) and Fight Club (Pahlaniuk) (I know, not typical philosophy, but still damn good)






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Old Dec 30th, 2007, 11:00 PM   #52 (permalink)
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If you guys are interested in reading original philosophical work, I would recommend "La Nausée" by J.P. Sartre. It is as good an introduction as any if you are interested in his existentialism. In addition, he wrote many other novels and essays, so finding stuff on him should not be hard and I would strongly recommend it in fact.

As for just a website with resources/info and academic commentary, this resource by Stanford University is by far the best on the internet. It doesn't offer the "chain linked" flexibility or the up-to-dateness of Wikipedia but it is infinitely more professional and insightful. I've yet to find a better resource (or something even remotely similar).

http://plato.stanford.edu/







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i have not read all of the posts to this but the few that i read have not mentioned anything about Platos's works. ofcourse if you want to read philosophy you must start with him. his dialogues are good. apology( socrate's defense in the court that was to poison him later) phaedo( about soul) and symposium should not be missed. you can all find them on the internet free of cost.







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Old Sep 25th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I'm with Insha_Ji.

The first philosophy book I ever read was Euthyphro, apology, and Credo about Socrates.
I immediately swithched to Philosophy.
I wasn't crazy about them all. I loved Plato. Aristotle. and then I liked Kierkegaard,
and was fascinated by Neitsche, & GWF Hegel,
but others were either boring, tedious, or "off base".

Socrates still holds my heart, because - to me, his dialectics were brilliant,
practical, searching for truth or the highest wisdom, and they
rose to the level where they could only be answered by the gods.

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